Covid19 Recovered Countries
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Anyone have any knowledge or personal experience on what it's like to live in Wuhan or South Korea at the moment? It's a source of hope that these countries have their daily cases under control. Is everyone back at work? Socialising in bars? Is it possible there won't be a second surge?
Maybe not Wuhan or Hubei but there were still new cases elsewhere in China. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co....
glazbagun said:
IIRC, Singapore and Taiwan have both done a decent job, but they reacted hard and early. I think Taiwan used (and S. Korea use) mobile phone tracking to locate potential patients and the first the infected knew about it was when the authorities got in touch.
My daughter was in Vietnam. First they knew about it, they were dragged off a tourist bus by militray police, assualted and locked up. Not even infected, just visitors from another country where virus is present. It works, total lock down, but it takes a tough regime to stamp on it that hard. Singapore seem to have done it well.
scottydoesntknow said:
Sambucket said:
Why so sure? Is their any precedent?
https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-second-wave-resurgenceThe cases between the 1918 outbreak and SARS-CoV2 couldn't be more stark. The major cause of both Spanish flu infections and fatalities were due to unsanitary and cramped conditions. The virus itself wasnt that much worse than the regular flu, but the conditions were perfect for it to thrive due to world war 1.
Also the virus that causes most of the deaths in 1918 was different to the first outbreak in 1917. This is why we shouldn't compare SARS-CoV2 to influenza, influenza mutates extremely quickly.
SARS-CoV2 is the opposite, it's a virulent virus limited by good conditions. SARS type viruses do not mutate quickly and do not tend to resurge as we saw with the 2003-4 SARS outbreak.
Sambucket said:
arbitray inputs but still a positive I think given what’s happening in Spain . Uk is converging towards China.
Not sure the graph means much I understand the designation of a CV death is far from standard. Based on what I have read Spain is counting ever death where the virus was present the UK only where the virus was the cause of death. One think I suggest the world needs to understand from this. Counties need to agree best practice on statistics gathering for health emergencies. Its very boring but it will help next time.
Red 4 said:
If anyone wants an example of how the Covid-19 situation was well handled then look no further than the Czech Republic.
They moved early, locked down and tested extensively.
The numbers speak for themselves.
They moved early, locked down and tested extensively.
The numbers speak for themselves.
I’ve a friend out there and he reports that the majority of the people are adhering to instruction too.
Making their own face masks, politicians are wearing them and gloves in public etc so it has become normal rather than odd to wear protection.
Sophisticated Sarah said:
Red 4 said:
If anyone wants an example of how the Covid-19 situation was well handled then look no further than the Czech Republic.
They moved early, locked down and tested extensively.
The numbers speak for themselves.
They moved early, locked down and tested extensively.
The numbers speak for themselves.
I’ve a friend out there and he reports that the majority of the people are adhering to instruction too.
Making their own face masks, politicians are wearing them and gloves in public etc so it has become normal rather than odd to wear protection.
The Czechs closed their borders, imposed a strict lockdown (not a pseudo one) and sent Air Force transports to China to collect testing kits.
They did all this while we were being told to wash our hands and sing Happy Birthday.
Unfortunately I do not predict a happy ending for the UK - especially London.
My friends in Singapore said everything was pretty much as normal apart from temperature scanners in more places such as office buildings and some people working split shifts.
However, in the last week they’ve all been sent to fully work from home and more social distancing measures coming in, so it sounds like they are gearing up for a second wave.
However, in the last week they’ve all been sent to fully work from home and more social distancing measures coming in, so it sounds like they are gearing up for a second wave.
dmahon said:
My friends in Singapore said everything was pretty much as normal apart from temperature scanners in more places such as office buildings and some people working split shifts.
However, in the last week they’ve all been sent to fully work from home and more social distancing measures coming in, so it sounds like they are gearing up for a second wave.
They closed the border though. Expat friends of mine on holiday to the U.K. were locked out for ages.However, in the last week they’ve all been sent to fully work from home and more social distancing measures coming in, so it sounds like they are gearing up for a second wave.
To the countries that shut early they could well have further outbreaks when they reopen it only take a few people to travel to that country for it to kick up again it may save lives now but will it cause further issues later on. Also the ones who acted sooner are generally smaller countries with very tough regimes that can enforce it. Britian has never been like that and our population would never except it.
There is simply no recovered countries till the vaccine is available.
There is simply no recovered countries till the vaccine is available.
Mrr T said:
Sambucket said:
arbitray inputs but still a positive I think given what’s happening in Spain . Uk is converging towards China.
Not sure the graph means much I understand the designation of a CV death is far from standard. Based on what I have read Spain is counting ever death where the virus was present the UK only where the virus was the cause of death. One think I suggest the world needs to understand from this. Counties need to agree best practice on statistics gathering for health emergencies. Its very boring but it will help next time.
If so the number of PM's must match the number of deaths recorded as being linked to CV19, the number of deaths is approaching 10,000, on top of that are the deaths caused by other conditions.
The resource to carry out the above and in the time period that has so far lapsed is enormous, and is difficult to believe is possible.
I'm not trying to underplay the numbers of deaths reported as being linked to CV19, but if other countries are using different methods to arrive at the death statistics, how can countries be judged on how each country is performing in regards to how they are dealing with the crisis?
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