new biker - what do i need ?
new biker - what do i need ?
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vrooom

Original Poster:

3,763 posts

297 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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I am new biker who just passed my das in December 13th 2019. And i am about to buy my first bike. Truimph triple 675 R.
my question is what do i need? Im thinking of motorbike related Accessories.

Bike cover ?
Some kind of security? chains or whatnot ?
any special tools ?
Paddock stand?

anything i need or dont need ?

I already got my helmet and gloves, jacket, i will be buying 1 piece suit in upcoming weeks time.

Bob a

23 posts

167 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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Bike cover if stored out side, try to get bike inside. If outside ensure you have an anchor bolted to the ground and the bike chained to that.
Get an alarm if stored outside and if you can get a tracker fitted.
Only get a paddock stand if you are going to work on it.

Get a good friend who is a sensible rider and go for a ride together. Follow this person to learn from them and get them to follow you to highlight poor practice you may not be aware of.

I would also get a dashcam for bikes fitted, you are not invincible .

Safe riding.

Gixer968CS

854 posts

118 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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Having the right right kit will transform your experience, but you say you have that nailed. So two other essentials:

Kriega rucksack and/or US10/20 tail pack for when you need to carry stuff

Abba Superbike stand with the add on gizmo that ties to the swing arm and lets you lift the bike completely off the ground. It’s really easy to use, really sturdy and will transform washing (especially wheels) and chain lubing. Much better than paddock stands.

Ed.

2,176 posts

268 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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Firstly congratulations,
You are going to get a number of different opinions on what's important.
Covers do keep the rain off but can also hold the moisture in.
Paddock stands are cheap, compact and make many things easier, even oiling chain.
The value of a tracker depends on whether you think the police will be interested.
Security may depend on where you are in the country but Street triples are apparently a favourite.
Multiple locks are better, a decent anchored chain, I have an alarmed disclock partly because I didn't want to alter the bike's wiring.
16mm chains are needed to resist bolt croppers but they are too heavy to carry around and battery angle grinders are readily available.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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Bob a said:
Get a good friend who is a sensible rider and go for a ride together. Follow this person to learn from them and get them to follow you to highlight poor practice you may not be aware of.

I would also get a dashcam for bikes fitted, you are not invincible .

Safe riding.
This is good advice. There's loads of content on YouTube etc about it. You could also look at the channels where incidents are shown- try and learn where bikers make mistakes.

Do a bike safe course if they're still running, they're excellent. Get and read a copy of the road craft books that the coppers use.

For tools I really like the monkey chain tension tool as it makes checking the tension a 30 second job.

ClaphamGT3

12,247 posts

273 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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If buying new or used but with new tyres fitted, remember just how little grip you'll have until the new tyres fully bed in (c 50 - 100 miles of riding). Ride cautiously.

Baldchap

9,629 posts

122 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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Another vote for a Kriega US20. The absolute best bike luggage on the planet.

TheThing

960 posts

164 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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Nice first bike. Get yourself some decent base layers as well. 151's are pretty good for the money.

zzrman

670 posts

219 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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Never mind the kit, the most important thing you need is how to ride the bike and the bike you are buying has plenty of potential to get you into deep s**t. Passing your DAS is good but you are still a novice with a shedload to learn. You are probably at best consciously competent but its more likely that you are consciously incompetent which is at least better than being unconsciously incompetent. The aim over time is to become unconsciously competent i.e you do the right thing without first having to think about it.

I'm not a particular fan of the IAM or ROSPA but as a first step along the way they're not bad. Riding with a mate can be OK but only if they're genuinely good. If they aren't all you will do is pick up bad habits.

One question why one piece leathers?

GYTRDave

143 posts

81 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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zzrman said:
One question why one piece leathers?
I'd imagine because they are safer in a crash.

Salted_Peanut

1,788 posts

84 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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Congratulations on passing your DAS (before the lockdown!) and welcome to the club thumbup

Krikkit said:
Do a bike safe course if they're still running, they're excellent. Get and read a copy of the road craft books that the coppers use.
+1 for doing a Bikesafe course. Bikesafe is paused because of the pandemic but will be back. It’s extremely popular, so I recommend booking a place before they sell out. Bikesafe would be top of my list.

While not a page turner, I agree with Krikkit about reading Motorcycle Roadcraft. It’s got good info about cornering lines, how to use the ‘limit point’ for cornering, and 3-stage overtaking. All fundamental skills that DAS doesn’t cover. Also, the Police Advanced Riding Techniques DVD could be worth a look too.

Also, I see that Reg_Local of this parish has started riding tips on YouTube but I haven't watched them yet.

zzrman

670 posts

219 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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GYTRDave said:
I'd imagine because they are safer in a crash.
That depends on how good the zip is.



ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

206 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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vrooom said:
I am new biker ... my question is what do i need?
A sense of self preservation, 360˚ vision and patience re: cagers and their obsession with smartphones.

Pothole

34,367 posts

312 months

Saturday 21st March 2020
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Looking at your list: trousers.

black-k1

12,807 posts

259 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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Krikkit said:
Bob a said:
Get a good friend who is a sensible rider and go for a ride together. Follow this person to learn from them and get them to follow you to highlight poor practice you may not be aware of.

I would also get a dashcam for bikes fitted, you are not invincible .

Safe riding.
This is good advice. There's loads of content on YouTube etc about it. You could also look at the channels where incidents are shown- try and learn where bikers make mistakes.

Do a bike safe course if they're still running, they're excellent. Get and read a copy of the road craft books that the coppers use.

For tools I really like the monkey chain tension tool as it makes checking the tension a 30 second job.
What is needed most of all is experience but that comes immediately after you need it. The next best thing is training. The more the better. You can never have too much training.

Training leading to experience will protect you better than any item of kit (not that they aren't important) and will increase your enjoyment of biking.

talksthetorque

10,821 posts

165 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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Anyone mentioned earplugs yet?

Essential.


WarnieV6GT

1,441 posts

229 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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Tail tidy
7x5 plate
Gold chain
Anodized brake reservoir covers
An end can that small that you wince everytime you start the thing up


V1nce Fox

5,508 posts

98 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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I noticed an absence of trousers too.

One piece is great but wildly impractical for a lot of things. Get good twousahs that join to your jacket.

The advice about a friendly mentor rider who has nothing to prove is very, very good too. Depending on where you're based maybe someone here could offer?

Salted_Peanut

1,788 posts

84 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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zzrman said:
I'm not a particular fan of the IAM or ROSPA but as a first step along the way they're not bad. Riding with a mate can be OK but only if they're genuinely good. If they aren't all you will do is pick up bad habits.
+1. I agree about picking up bad habits from mates. While I'd normally recommend professional training over the IAM and RoSPA, the IAM and RoSPA are generally a good place to start for mentoring. I don't know about RoSPA, but the IAM has tweeted that it's continuing with observed rides as long as both riders are happy to do so.

Professional training would be better by miles. It's a shame that Survival Skills isn't training during the pandemic, but Rapid Training might be open for business. These guys are utterly brilliant.


Stuart Fordyce

2,557 posts

91 months

Sunday 22nd March 2020
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Not seen a mention of boots yet either?