80% Wages - When?
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KrissKross

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2,182 posts

125 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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Can anyone shed some light on the 80% cover for wages?

Whilst we can cover the wage bill at the end of this month, it will not be possible next month. Sales and new orders have disappeared and our cashflow is in serious trouble.

When and how can we access this money to cover wages?

Thanks

DKL

4,889 posts

246 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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The system hasn't been released yet as far as I know
I've pointed out to my staff that if they choose not to use holiday or take a couple of days unpaid and start furlough on 1/4 then they could be waiting at least a month for the last sliver of this months salary.

KrissKross

Original Poster:

2,182 posts

125 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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Can anyone shed light on the 80% cover for wages?

Whilst we can cover the wage bill at the end of this month, it will not be possible next month. Sales and new orders have disappeared and our cashflow is in serious trouble.

When and how can we access this money to cover wages?

Thanks

Gretchen

19,634 posts

240 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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My company made an announcement last week that they will cover this. Topping up the SSP themselves.


KrissKross

Original Poster:

2,182 posts

125 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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Gretchen said:
My company made an announcement last week that they will cover this. Topping up the SSP themselves.
That doesn't answer my question, thanks though.

Wilmslowboy

4,659 posts

230 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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This is what we we told at work today.

You have to explicitly notify the employee that they have been furloughed.
A portal is being set up by HMRC that you will then enter the details into of all employees that have been furloughed, you will then receive upto 80% of their salary back, upto £2,500 a month.


There are lots of questions
When will the portal be ready
Will the £2,500 be gross or nett


The furloughed employee can not do any work, it's for individuals that otherwise would have been 'laid off'

FazerBoy

995 posts

174 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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How much does the employer pay the employee on furlough - full salary or the 80% being covered by the scheme?

Eric Mc

124,991 posts

289 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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FazerBoy said:
How much does the employer pay the employee on furlough - full salary or the 80% being covered by the scheme?
Either.

The government will refund 80% of the normal full salary.

matt21

4,373 posts

228 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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Is the 80% or £2500 subject to tax?

Eric Mc

124,991 posts

289 months

Monday 23rd March 2020
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matt21 said:
Is the 80% or £2500 subject to tax?
Not sure yet.

Can't see why it wouldn't be.

Saweep

6,703 posts

210 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Makes sense to have it up and running with payments to begin end April when most people get paid.

Heartworm

1,938 posts

185 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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It’s 80% gross pay so inside it’s subject to tax. Could really do with details soon.

Deesee

8,509 posts

107 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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I’ve received this, earlier this morning..


The ongoing COVID-19 outbreak is putting businesses at every level of the UK's economy under unprecedented pressure. To ease that strain and prevent affected workers losing their jobs altogether, the government's doing something basically unheard of. It's stepping in to pay 80% of the wages of people unable to work because of the pandemic. Any UK business whose employees are facing the axe because of COVID-19 can qualify, with the scheme initially running for 3 months and to be extended if needed.

80% of workers' wages will be covered, up to £2,500 per month, theoretically saving thousands of jobs in vulnerable businesses. Payments will be backdated to the 1st of March, meaning it could actually see people who've already been laid off given a lifeline (and their old jobs back). The cash will start flowing within a few weeks. Here's how it works:

Instead of laying its employees off, a business will instead designate them as “furloughed workers”. Obviously, this is a change in employment status so it might mean some extra paperwork and contract negotiation.
The employer sends word to HMRC about all of its furloughed employees, listing their earnings and any other essential information. They can do this online through a new, custom-built portal, with the exact details still to come.
Since this is a reimbursement scheme, the business continues to pay its employees as normal. The money is then claimed back through the system. The exact mechanism for this is still in the works, but it's being treated as a priority.

Eric Mc

124,991 posts

289 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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I wonder why they need a special portal. All salaries are reported through the HMRC RTI system every time a payroll is run.
Why can't they use that information to calculate the 80% reimbursement?

The only extra information required is the list of furloughed staff.

Zigster

1,983 posts

168 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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The government website should help with the detail of how to apply.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

236 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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As usual my timing is awful.

I'm currently working my notice with the intention of setting up a training business. I've managed to get an extension on my notice to hopefully mid June when my replacement starts. I set up my company in January and created my first events in January (events to be held in April), events have now been postponed. Unsure how this will impact me as I'm not on the new company's payroll yet.





poo at Paul's

14,558 posts

199 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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Dr Hillary saying don't go to buy a bicycle and he is right, loads of wobbly people on bikes, not a good idea.

When WW2 began, I wonder how many people took up doing Triathlons.

FFS people, stay home, stay indoors, don't go out at all unless you NEED to. You don't NEED to go for a bike ride, you almost certainly don't need to go for a walk out in public. Every person that says in, does their bit to limit the spread and make it safer when you DO NEED to go out.

Just stay the fk inside.


Sorry, I note this is posted on the wrong thread I had open, but am leaving it here as it is important IMO!

There are crazy economic consequences of this, but they have to be secondary at the moment to the public health side of things

Edited by poo at Paul's on Tuesday 24th March 08:11

Jinx

11,939 posts

284 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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poo at Paul's said:
Dr Hillary saying don't go to buy a bicycle and he is right, loads of wobbly people on bikes, not a good idea.

When WW2 began, I wonder how many people took up doing Triathlons.

FFS people, stay home, stay indoors, don't go out at all unless you NEED to. You don't NEED to go for a bike ride, you almost certainly don't need to go for a walk out in public. Every person that says in, does their bit to limit the spread and make it safer when you DO NEED to go out.

Just stay the fk inside.


Sorry, I note this is posted on the wrong thread I had open, but am leaving it here as it is important IMO!

There are crazy economic consequences of this, but they have to be secondary at the moment to the public health side of things

Edited by poo at Paul's on Tuesday 24th March 08:11
What if you live in a one room bedsit? I think a walk outside during unpopular hours (5 a.m.) might be essential for mental and physical health and is of limited risk. Luckily I have a garden and can get fresh air but not everyone is in this situation?


Dog Star

17,376 posts

192 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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I live right on the moors - outside the back of my house is nothing but open moorland and trails for miles and miles. I can assure you that I'm putting nobody at risk of infection by going out of my back gate for a walk, just as I and the OH will be doing this lunchtime (as we are allowed). You'll be telling me not to go out in my garden next.

CzechItOut

2,156 posts

215 months

Tuesday 24th March 2020
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This is the only official update I've seen:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidanc...