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Gerradi

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2,051 posts

149 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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In December my wife was in Waitrose car park, she reversed out of a space next to a van & collided with a car, car driver was very shouty & loud , wife felt intimidated , other people became involved & told him to calm down. The crux of the matter for him was this had happened to him at the same car park a few months back & his Insurance would go up . He asked wife if she would go through a garage he knows , she said she would discuss it with me. This was near last Christmas & before she could tell me I had a heartattackin hospital & she did not tell me due to stress etc. The guy sent her a quote from a quote of £360, apparently it was a ding on the corner of his front bumper on a Audi A4 2010, , this was 3 weeks after the incident, in the end my daughter told me & I said go through your Insurance & do not pay him anything.
So thats what she did & apparently the claim was £275 .

Yesterday she recives a notice from the [police saying that on that date & on the road outside of Waitrose that she was driving her car without due cars & attention prior to a road traffic collision & drove off without giving detailss etc.

So my wife has all the texts & attachments (pics of his car) saying how he wants her to pay him £360- for the car repair & its obviously dated ...Oh & talking about dates , on the letter from the police it states the incident is yet to happen as its dated 21/12/2020.

It has been settled by the Insurance company & they actually said it was a vey minor incident that cost my wife 2 yrsNCB.

She is going to contact the Police soon but should we get a letterfrom her Insurance company showing she did report it & he did have her datils the next day....so why he is telling the Police this god knows.

Marlin45

1,334 posts

193 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Because he is a shouty ares and full of his own impotence?

Pegscratch

1,872 posts

137 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Redact the "notice" and post it here. Police don't send you a notice of the above, you get a NIP and that will list offences. My money is on the tt impersonating the police to try and upset you because you didn't accept his "gracious" offer of extortion.

Also, if two people have had the same accident with him there I'd argue he's the commonality here, and should be approaching the situation there differently.

bad company

21,919 posts

295 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Yep, please redact the name & address and put the notice up here. I’ve never heard of police sending such a notice.

speedking31

3,913 posts

165 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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How do you know they are the same 2 incidents?

A500leroy

8,412 posts

147 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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hi im a postie, was there a police stamp mark on the envelope? if not its probably fake.

Gerradi

Original Poster:

2,051 posts

149 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Good point Speed king but I am sure she would have rememberd two incidents on the same day , same area time etc, although it was christmas shopping & then me in hospital etc...

I am certain its a real letter ,here is a copy, hope it shows up .

As I say we are baffled how can the police say she drove off when there was no such incident on any road. She just reversed out of a ordinary Waitrose parking bay , no road at all? Also the date they say it was supposed to have occured ? 21/12/2020 ?
ETA
On the rear of the letter there is a form to fill in & send ?



Edited by Gerradi on Wednesday 25th March 12:52

defblade

8,054 posts

242 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Well, whatever else, you've got the makings of a C&W hit record, there...

musicPut the old sim back in, Lucille...





Think I've been indoors too long already.
Can't really even say getmecoat !

the tribester

2,929 posts

115 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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The location of the alleged incident on the NOIP, is NOT Waitrose car park though.

ro250

3,361 posts

86 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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the tribester said:
The location of the alleged incident on the NOIP, is NOT Waitrose car park though.
Plus the location information (referring to the road twice) is oddly written, and, as the OP says, the date is wrong.

If this is a forgery, presumably the sender can get in a lot of bother for this?

agtlaw

7,403 posts

235 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Incredibly badly drafted letter. Definitely genuine.


Geffg

1,347 posts

134 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Why is the letter signed “name”?

Desiderata

2,738 posts

83 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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I'd be tempted to fill it in stating that no one was driving the vehicle on that date (as it hasn't happened yet), and leave it at that.
You'll have complied with the request so can't be prosecuted for failing to do so.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

246 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Gerradi said:
Good point Speed king but I am sure she would have rememberd two incidents on the same day , same area time etc, although it was christmas shopping & then me in hospital etc...

I am certain its a real letter ,here is a copy, hope it shows up .

As I say we are baffled how can the police say she drove off when there was no such incident on any road. She just reversed out of a ordinary Waitrose parking bay , no road at all? Also the date they say it was supposed to have occured ? 21/12/2020 ?
The Police are responding to an allegation by another party. They will investigate whether it took place or not at the location quoted.
I take it your wife had a collision at Waitrose on 21/12/2019?

chrisch77

890 posts

104 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Well looks like matey that she bumped into has taken umbrage and reported her to the police to accuse her of leaving the scene of the crime, and had to put a location of the public highway rather than the private car park.

dxg

10,730 posts

289 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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I had something similar a few years back but it was from my insurance company.

Luckily, an MOT passed just before the alleged incident and a photograph of the current odometer (with that day's newspaper ala a ransom demand), plus the fact that it was may fun car, and I could prove there was no way that car could have travelled to the location cited.

It was a massive ball-ache. I wish you the best.

Gerradi

Original Poster:

2,051 posts

149 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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chrisch77 said:
Well looks like matey that she bumped into has taken umbrage and reported her to the police to accuse her of leaving the scene of the crime, and had to put a location of the public highway rather than the private car park.
I think he was looking for a Christmas payout, he nearly had it as well if my daughter had followed her Mum's advice & not tell me as it might stress me etc. Stress, she is up to her eys at the moment, 12 hour + shifts & could do without this nonsense
Anyway guys I'll let her read all your thoughts /experience etc & see what she decides .thank you!

NMNeil

5,860 posts

79 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Not sure if it makes any difference but there's no such thing as undue care and attention in the 1988 Act.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/conten...

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

192 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Marlin45 said:
Because he is a shouty ares and full of his own impotence?
Another reason to be angry probably.

CAPP0

20,860 posts

232 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Genuine question - why would you not pick up the phone and call the number at the top and have a chat about it to find out what it's about? Or if you are concerned about forgeries, call the local nick and ask for the Collisions Unit.