M12 space frame strength.

[AMG Merc]

Just noticed this sale item and was wondering how strong the roll cage is when it's welded, as it is, to the space frame like that? I know the set-up is supposed to be very strong (I recall the early SA accident) but the photo doesn't inspire me with confidence! Comments experts?!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=100921&item=4554956007&rd=1

[paulcundy]

Not sure I'd want it, look at the rear upper rails, they look to me like they've been chopped through?

Regards
PauL C

[ThatPhilBrettGuy]

Hard to say at that res on the pictures. The text has to be the biggest bunch of ar$e though...

Trying it on Ebayer said:

You will not have to buy everything from Noble if you do not want to (except for the panels, but aren’t they fantastic looking)? Most parts are easily available from any performance shops (or on E-bay).

True that £5K is probably cheap but stating you could put one together for £20K?

[silversix]

It isn't worth that in my opinion. An Ultima chassis new, is only £3k.

[paulcundy]

Follow the rear roll over hoop down to the top rear square section. Follow this back past the engine mounting point and it just comes to a stop. then there is a gap before the rear subframe starts again with an exposed rectangular cross section.

I'm certain mine ain't like that?

[DanH]

Looked at mine an hour ago. Paul you are right, those gaps shouldn't be there.

[paulcundy]

DanH said:

Looked at mine an hour ago. Paul you are right, those gaps shouldn't be there.

in the sense of a bargain does that mean it is a snip or not a snip or more accuratley that it has literaly been snipped?

I'd imagine this to be a pretty significant point, has the seller revealed the fact that its a butchered chassis?

Regards
Paul C

[AMG Merc]

...ooops, what have I started!

[Matt_FP]

It looks to me like that has been in a car (or should that be "has been a car" previously.

The glue used to attach the carpet to the transmission tunnel is clearly visible. It has several of the ally panels attached and the firewall/floors are covered.

As for costs. Cat B write off 2.5 GTO = £5K, Space frame = 8K and clams = 5K, really you'd have to add £5K to that as well to cover bits like damaged wishbones, wheels etc.

Best Regards
Matt