Boxster and Cayman - less is more?
Discussion
Apologies for the slightly indulgent post but i'm interested to know if perspectives have shifted slightly now the higher level models (i.e. 981 and 718) have had slightly longer lifespans and have filtered down into the used market.
I'm on my 4th 'baby Porsche' now. All of them have been weekend cars, so I prioritise fun over practicality and tech.
The first was a leggy 986 S. It was perhaps not the best example, but it had bags of character, nigh-on perfect control weights, feelsome steering and an engine that seemed to have multiple personalities depending on where you were in the rev range. But it needed constant fettling, which got in the way of enjoying the car.
So I changed it for a 987.2 Boxster on 19s. Pretty firm riding, feedback was more muted compared to it's older brother - but its composure, looks and performance were a different level to the 986. The DFI sounded a bit monotone, but a Carnewal R muffler system soon changed that. I did many happy miles but I couldn't shake off the feeling that it was just a bit 'too good' on decent tyres and I moved it on for an e92 M3 (big mistake) so I could tick the V8 box.
Fast forward 2 years and financial circumstances dictated that I 'downgraded' from a, Ohlins-shod Megane 275 to to a 2000 2.7 986. What a car. Bar a 6th gear and a fair chunk of performance, it had everything my 986 S had, but with better provenance. I loved the engine - it felt a nigh-on perfect match for crowded UK roads and for just over £3.5k it was a stonking machine.
In January, prior to all the CV emergency, I spotted a sub-£17k 987.2 Cayman S which I thought I could run for a few months and then maybe sell for a very small profit. On the test drive I immediately knew it was a far more serious proposition than the 986 2.7, but given I was offered all of my £3.5k in PX for the 986, the deal made sense.
I've put about 1500 miles on it now, and bar the drive home I don't think it has put a single smile on my face. It is just so good at what it does that it borders on being dull. It rides very stiffly on 18s, goes very quickly but lacks 'fizz'.
I've read various opinions that 987.2 is 'peak Cayster' because it combines reliability, hydraulic steering, performance, reasonable economy and relative affordability.
In comparison, the 981 gains better looks, more refinement, but loses the hydraulic steering. Stepping on to the mainstream 718s, you have more of the same but lose the flat-6.
Whilst I've never driven a 981 or 718 - even if money were no object, were I buying again and I had the option to choose any mainstream (i.e not a GT4 etc) Cayster, hand on heart I would buy a really nice 986 2.7.
I don't think I want a 997.2 or a 981 S now. I just get a sense they'd be more grown up than the 987.2 that i'm struggling to gel with.
What do people think? Of those of you who have had multiple Porkers, or their competitors, what is your sweet-spot for fun? If you had to pick one for the last drive of your life, which would it be?
I'm on my 4th 'baby Porsche' now. All of them have been weekend cars, so I prioritise fun over practicality and tech.
The first was a leggy 986 S. It was perhaps not the best example, but it had bags of character, nigh-on perfect control weights, feelsome steering and an engine that seemed to have multiple personalities depending on where you were in the rev range. But it needed constant fettling, which got in the way of enjoying the car.
So I changed it for a 987.2 Boxster on 19s. Pretty firm riding, feedback was more muted compared to it's older brother - but its composure, looks and performance were a different level to the 986. The DFI sounded a bit monotone, but a Carnewal R muffler system soon changed that. I did many happy miles but I couldn't shake off the feeling that it was just a bit 'too good' on decent tyres and I moved it on for an e92 M3 (big mistake) so I could tick the V8 box.
Fast forward 2 years and financial circumstances dictated that I 'downgraded' from a, Ohlins-shod Megane 275 to to a 2000 2.7 986. What a car. Bar a 6th gear and a fair chunk of performance, it had everything my 986 S had, but with better provenance. I loved the engine - it felt a nigh-on perfect match for crowded UK roads and for just over £3.5k it was a stonking machine.
In January, prior to all the CV emergency, I spotted a sub-£17k 987.2 Cayman S which I thought I could run for a few months and then maybe sell for a very small profit. On the test drive I immediately knew it was a far more serious proposition than the 986 2.7, but given I was offered all of my £3.5k in PX for the 986, the deal made sense.
I've put about 1500 miles on it now, and bar the drive home I don't think it has put a single smile on my face. It is just so good at what it does that it borders on being dull. It rides very stiffly on 18s, goes very quickly but lacks 'fizz'.
I've read various opinions that 987.2 is 'peak Cayster' because it combines reliability, hydraulic steering, performance, reasonable economy and relative affordability.
In comparison, the 981 gains better looks, more refinement, but loses the hydraulic steering. Stepping on to the mainstream 718s, you have more of the same but lose the flat-6.
Whilst I've never driven a 981 or 718 - even if money were no object, were I buying again and I had the option to choose any mainstream (i.e not a GT4 etc) Cayster, hand on heart I would buy a really nice 986 2.7.
I don't think I want a 997.2 or a 981 S now. I just get a sense they'd be more grown up than the 987.2 that i'm struggling to gel with.
What do people think? Of those of you who have had multiple Porkers, or their competitors, what is your sweet-spot for fun? If you had to pick one for the last drive of your life, which would it be?
987.2 base Boxster with the 2.9 engine on 18's?
Note that wasn't a DFI engine (unlike the 3.4) so is a weird little point in time that I think might be looked back on favourably.
Good low mile examples are out there in dealers advertised for £15k so take a few k's off that for starters. Who knows, privately you might get a good one closer to £10k. Stupid value ...peanuts for a lovely flat 6 experience.
Note that wasn't a DFI engine (unlike the 3.4) so is a weird little point in time that I think might be looked back on favourably.
Good low mile examples are out there in dealers advertised for £15k so take a few k's off that for starters. Who knows, privately you might get a good one closer to £10k. Stupid value ...peanuts for a lovely flat 6 experience.
Edited by Andyoz on Friday 27th March 09:10
KPB1973 said:
Apologies for the slightly indulgent post but i'm interested to know if perspectives have shifted slightly now the higher level models (i.e. 981 and 718) have had slightly longer lifespans and have filtered down into the used market.
I'm on my 4th 'baby Porsche' now. All of them have been weekend cars, so I prioritise fun over practicality and tech.
The first was a leggy 986 S. It was perhaps not the best example, but it had bags of character, nigh-on perfect control weights, feelsome steering and an engine that seemed to have multiple personalities depending on where you were in the rev range. But it needed constant fettling, which got in the way of enjoying the car.
So I changed it for a 987.2 Boxster on 19s. Pretty firm riding, feedback was more muted compared to it's older brother - but its composure, looks and performance were a different level to the 986. The DFI sounded a bit monotone, but a Carnewal R muffler system soon changed that. I did many happy miles but I couldn't shake off the feeling that it was just a bit 'too good' on decent tyres and I moved it on for an e92 M3 (big mistake) so I could tick the V8 box.
Fast forward 2 years and financial circumstances dictated that I 'downgraded' from a, Ohlins-shod Megane 275 to to a 2000 2.7 986. What a car. Bar a 6th gear and a fair chunk of performance, it had everything my 986 S had, but with better provenance. I loved the engine - it felt a nigh-on perfect match for crowded UK roads and for just over £3.5k it was a stonking machine.
In January, prior to all the CV emergency, I spotted a sub-£17k 987.2 Cayman S which I thought I could run for a few months and then maybe sell for a very small profit. On the test drive I immediately knew it was a far more serious proposition than the 986 2.7, but given I was offered all of my £3.5k in PX for the 986, the deal made sense.
I've put about 1500 miles on it now, and bar the drive home I don't think it has put a single smile on my face. It is just so good at what it does that it borders on being dull. It rides very stiffly on 18s, goes very quickly but lacks 'fizz'.
I've read various opinions that 987.2 is 'peak Cayster' because it combines reliability, hydraulic steering, performance, reasonable economy and relative affordability.
In comparison, the 981 gains better looks, more refinement, but loses the hydraulic steering. Stepping on to the mainstream 718s, you have more of the same but lose the flat-6.
Whilst I've never driven a 981 or 718 - even if money were no object, were I buying again and I had the option to choose any mainstream (i.e not a GT4 etc) Cayster, hand on heart I would buy a really nice 986 2.7.
I don't think I want a 997.2 or a 981 S now. I just get a sense they'd be more grown up than the 987.2 that i'm struggling to gel with.
What do people think? Of those of you who have had multiple Porkers, or their competitors, what is your sweet-spot for fun? If you had to pick one for the last drive of your life, which would it be?
newer car are more dull for sure bar GT models and some of those are dulled down these days.I'm on my 4th 'baby Porsche' now. All of them have been weekend cars, so I prioritise fun over practicality and tech.
The first was a leggy 986 S. It was perhaps not the best example, but it had bags of character, nigh-on perfect control weights, feelsome steering and an engine that seemed to have multiple personalities depending on where you were in the rev range. But it needed constant fettling, which got in the way of enjoying the car.
So I changed it for a 987.2 Boxster on 19s. Pretty firm riding, feedback was more muted compared to it's older brother - but its composure, looks and performance were a different level to the 986. The DFI sounded a bit monotone, but a Carnewal R muffler system soon changed that. I did many happy miles but I couldn't shake off the feeling that it was just a bit 'too good' on decent tyres and I moved it on for an e92 M3 (big mistake) so I could tick the V8 box.
Fast forward 2 years and financial circumstances dictated that I 'downgraded' from a, Ohlins-shod Megane 275 to to a 2000 2.7 986. What a car. Bar a 6th gear and a fair chunk of performance, it had everything my 986 S had, but with better provenance. I loved the engine - it felt a nigh-on perfect match for crowded UK roads and for just over £3.5k it was a stonking machine.
In January, prior to all the CV emergency, I spotted a sub-£17k 987.2 Cayman S which I thought I could run for a few months and then maybe sell for a very small profit. On the test drive I immediately knew it was a far more serious proposition than the 986 2.7, but given I was offered all of my £3.5k in PX for the 986, the deal made sense.
I've put about 1500 miles on it now, and bar the drive home I don't think it has put a single smile on my face. It is just so good at what it does that it borders on being dull. It rides very stiffly on 18s, goes very quickly but lacks 'fizz'.
I've read various opinions that 987.2 is 'peak Cayster' because it combines reliability, hydraulic steering, performance, reasonable economy and relative affordability.
In comparison, the 981 gains better looks, more refinement, but loses the hydraulic steering. Stepping on to the mainstream 718s, you have more of the same but lose the flat-6.
Whilst I've never driven a 981 or 718 - even if money were no object, were I buying again and I had the option to choose any mainstream (i.e not a GT4 etc) Cayster, hand on heart I would buy a really nice 986 2.7.
I don't think I want a 997.2 or a 981 S now. I just get a sense they'd be more grown up than the 987.2 that i'm struggling to gel with.
What do people think? Of those of you who have had multiple Porkers, or their competitors, what is your sweet-spot for fun? If you had to pick one for the last drive of your life, which would it be?
thing is the 997.2 and 987.2 were the sweet spot, before that engines were and issue after that EPS crap.
So in the big picture Porsche don't make that many great cars really, an over hyped brand in the main.
even the sweet spot of 997.2 and 987.2 PASM was gen one and a bit s
t.which only leaves a few nice cars like the Cayman R and 997 GTS etc.
Andyoz said:
987.2 base Boxster with the 2.9 engine on 18's?
Note that wasn't a DFI engine (unlike the 3.4) so is a weird little point in time that I think might be looked back on favourably.
Good low mile examples are out there in dealers advertised for £15k so take a few k's off that for starters. Who knows, privately you might get a good one closer to £10k. Stupid value ...peanuts for a lovely flat 6 experience.
Interesting shout. Whether they have that lovely 'classic' vibe that a 986 has would be my question, but I'd certainly trade the 3.4 DFI's power for a bit more old-school Porsche character.Note that wasn't a DFI engine (unlike the 3.4) so is a weird little point in time that I think might be looked back on favourably.
Good low mile examples are out there in dealers advertised for £15k so take a few k's off that for starters. Who knows, privately you might get a good one closer to £10k. Stupid value ...peanuts for a lovely flat 6 experience.
Edited by Andyoz on Friday 27th March 09:10
I’ve had mulitiple cars - Lotus Elise and Evora S, Porsche 997 S, Mercedes SL 500, Ferrari 612 amongst others. Currently got a Alfa QV. And I could not agree more with this - of all my cars two were head and shoulders above the rest - My 2002 986 S Boxster, and my MK1 MX5 1.6 which I will never sell. All the others had great things about them. But the overriding emotion which I think sticks with you is how much fun you’ve had. And there’s no fun in hitting the speed limit in 4 secs once the novelty wears off. But wringing a lower powered manual car out on a quiet country road, keeping it in the power band and getting the lines just right in order to not bleed off too much speed simply cannot be beaten. For anything else, just get a Range Rover. My next car will be a 2.9 manual 987.
rhubarbbear said:
I’ve had mulitiple cars - Lotus Elise and Evora S, Porsche 997 S, Mercedes SL 500, Ferrari 612 amongst others. Currently got a Alfa QV. And I could not agree more with this - of all my cars two were head and shoulders above the rest - My 2002 986 S Boxster, and my MK1 MX5 1.6 which I will never sell. All the others had great things about them. But the overriding emotion which I think sticks with you is how much fun you’ve had. And there’s no fun in hitting the speed limit in 4 secs once the novelty wears off. But wringing a lower powered manual car out on a quiet country road, keeping it in the power band and getting the lines just right in order to not bleed off too much speed simply cannot be beaten. For anything else, just get a Range Rover. My next car will be a 2.9 manual 987.
Those MK1 MX-5 lightly modded with induction and exhaust mods are mad fun.I went from one 986 S to another albeit a 2000 to a 2004 550. Both lightly modified. The only things of real interest to me are 987 Spyder and Exige V6 (probably roadster) manual of course. I choose to stay with the cheaper 986 because they are such great value and you can drive them with relative abandon, guilt free and no worries about miles and value.
986 do look like crazy value for money. I can't comment on comparisons as I haven't driven enough of them but I just bought my first Porsche two weeks ago. Cayman 987.1s. Full engine rebuild by PARR motorsport, Cobra Nogaro leather buckets, GT3 shift, KW coilovers, Carnewal GT exhaust.
It feels pretty sweet to me. It's on 19's , ( as is an R ), and PS4s which look superb and the suspension is fantastic. Obviously it's pretty firm and flat and no doubt 18s or even 17s would make it feel more lively but in a different way...
I think a few further small tweeks are still needed with possibilities of GT3 master cylinder, IPD plenum/200 cel headers/map.
Might also go lightweight flywheel when clutch next gets done..
For me it hits are really sweet spot in terms or chassis/power balance old vs new...With subtle choice mods that turn the urgency and noise up a tad I think it will be close to my perfect drive for british A and B roads...I'd love an R but can't afford one and this will be less than half the price..
It feels pretty sweet to me. It's on 19's , ( as is an R ), and PS4s which look superb and the suspension is fantastic. Obviously it's pretty firm and flat and no doubt 18s or even 17s would make it feel more lively but in a different way...
I think a few further small tweeks are still needed with possibilities of GT3 master cylinder, IPD plenum/200 cel headers/map.
Might also go lightweight flywheel when clutch next gets done..
For me it hits are really sweet spot in terms or chassis/power balance old vs new...With subtle choice mods that turn the urgency and noise up a tad I think it will be close to my perfect drive for british A and B roads...I'd love an R but can't afford one and this will be less than half the price..
Edmundo2 said:
986 do look like crazy value for money. I can't comment on comparisons as I haven't driven enough of them but I just bought my first Porsche two weeks ago. Cayman 987.1s. Full engine rebuild by PARR motorsport, Cobra Nogaro leather buckets, GT3 shift, KW coilovers, Carnewal GT exhaust.
It feels pretty sweet to me. It's on 19's , ( as is an R ), and PS4s which look superb and the suspension is fantastic. Obviously it's pretty firm and flat and no doubt 18s or even 17s would make it feel more lively but in a different way...
I think a few further small tweeks are still needed with possibilities of GT3 master cylinder, IPD plenum/200 cel headers/map.
Might also go lightweight flywheel when clutch next gets done..
For me it hits are really sweet spot in terms or chassis/power balance old vs new...With subtle choice mods that turn the urgency and noise up a tad I think it will be close to my perfect drive for british A and B roads...I'd love an R but can't afford one and this will be less than half the price..
Sounds great. Modded 987 generation has to be the way to go for many IMO. Many 987 are getting to the age where suspension and exhaust might need a refresh anyway so rude not to mod really.It feels pretty sweet to me. It's on 19's , ( as is an R ), and PS4s which look superb and the suspension is fantastic. Obviously it's pretty firm and flat and no doubt 18s or even 17s would make it feel more lively but in a different way...
I think a few further small tweeks are still needed with possibilities of GT3 master cylinder, IPD plenum/200 cel headers/map.
Might also go lightweight flywheel when clutch next gets done..
For me it hits are really sweet spot in terms or chassis/power balance old vs new...With subtle choice mods that turn the urgency and noise up a tad I think it will be close to my perfect drive for british A and B roads...I'd love an R but can't afford one and this will be less than half the price..
My issue with the R is its still at a price point where I'd be worried about the car and I've realised I'm just not into that. Buying cheaper stuff mentally frees you up to spanner on basic stuff yourself IMO as the whole perfect service history mantra for resale goes out the window
Where did you buy yours out of interest....where do all the modded 987's live? If consider flipping my current unmolested 987.1 for a modded example.
Edited by Andyoz on Saturday 28th March 10:20
edc said:
You need to get off PH to the model and marque specific forums to see the interesting modded cars in the main. If less interest to many I have detailed write ups prices and photos for both my 986 on boxa.net
Yes, I'm on a few but just need to keep looking harder. Could be some nice stuff about soon. Hi. Purchased privately after posting a "wanted" type thread on here. I was originally searching for a modded 996 C2 and also placed same thread on 911uk site etc..In the end a fellow PH'er tipped me wink to the Cayman. At that point I was adamant it was to be a 911 but when to see the Cayman just on the off chance and was amazed at how good it was...Owner was OCD by his own admission with everything rebuilt or rebuilt inc the tiniest details like new OEM clips for the brake lines and new lights etc...Makes for a great car and with a few further bits of work will be great in a mini GT3 kind of way...
My issue with the R is its still at a price point where I'd be worried about the car and I've realised I'm just not into that. Buying cheaper stuff mentally frees you up to spanner on basic stuff yourself IMO as the whole perfect service history mantra for resale goes out the window
Where did you buy yours out of interest....where do all the modded 987's live? If consider flipping my current unmolested
Andyoz said:
Edmundo2 said:
986 do look like crazy value for money. I can't comment on comparisons as I haven't driven enough of them but I just bought my first Porsche two weeks ago. Cayman 987.1s. Full engine rebuild by PARR motorsport, Cobra Nogaro leather buckets, GT3 shift, KW coilovers, Carnewal GT exhaust.
It feels pretty sweet to me. It's on 19's , ( as is an R ), and PS4s which look superb and the suspension is fantastic. Obviously it's pretty firm and flat and no doubt 18s or even 17s would make it feel more lively but in a different way...
I think a few further small tweeks are still needed with possibilities of GT3 master cylinder, IPD plenum/200 cel headers/map.
Might also go lightweight flywheel when clutch next gets done..
For me it hits are really sweet spot in terms or chassis/power balance old vs new...With subtle choice mods that turn the urgency and noise up a tad I think it will be close to my perfect drive for british A and B roads...I'd love an R but can't afford one and this will be less than half the price..
Sounds great. Modded 987 generation has to be the way to go for many IMO. Many 987 are getting to the age where suspension and exhaust might need a refresh anyway so rude not to mod really.It feels pretty sweet to me. It's on 19's , ( as is an R ), and PS4s which look superb and the suspension is fantastic. Obviously it's pretty firm and flat and no doubt 18s or even 17s would make it feel more lively but in a different way...
I think a few further small tweeks are still needed with possibilities of GT3 master cylinder, IPD plenum/200 cel headers/map.
Might also go lightweight flywheel when clutch next gets done..
For me it hits are really sweet spot in terms or chassis/power balance old vs new...With subtle choice mods that turn the urgency and noise up a tad I think it will be close to my perfect drive for british A and B roads...I'd love an R but can't afford one and this will be less than half the price..
My issue with the R is its still at a price point where I'd be worried about the car and I've realised I'm just not into that. Buying cheaper stuff mentally frees you up to spanner on basic stuff yourself IMO as the whole perfect service history mantra for resale goes out the window
Where did you buy yours out of interest....where do all the modded 987's live? If consider flipping my current unmolested
The car..
Photos courtesy of the previous owner as I haven't been able to take any as only had it a week before lock down...Just managed to get a blast to Buttertubs Pass last Saturday morning before the call went out. Loved it but think it could still be improved with an extra 15% noise, an extra 15% power, a map that makes throttle more responsive and improves curve to eliminate a slight flag spot, a slightly firmer brake pedal etc...All quite easy to do and relatively affordable when you consider the end result...I'd like a mini GT3 feel but with 50/50 weight distribution...Granted it will never be Mezger and I don't want to spoil the base car but it already feels great so can only imagine turning things up a notch will only go to make every drive even more of an occasion..
Photos courtesy of the previous owner as I haven't been able to take any as only had it a week before lock down...Just managed to get a blast to Buttertubs Pass last Saturday morning before the call went out. Loved it but think it could still be improved with an extra 15% noise, an extra 15% power, a map that makes throttle more responsive and improves curve to eliminate a slight flag spot, a slightly firmer brake pedal etc...All quite easy to do and relatively affordable when you consider the end result...I'd like a mini GT3 feel but with 50/50 weight distribution...Granted it will never be Mezger and I don't want to spoil the base car but it already feels great so can only imagine turning things up a notch will only go to make every drive even more of an occasion..
KW's are Clubsport 3 I believe but custom valving done for previous owner who owns Cobra seats hence the reference on the damper..He fitted the Nogaros and had door cards, gator, handbrake and wheel all retrimmed too..
Thanks for heads up re IPD. Are you suggesting it's a waste of time...lots of conflicting info out there. To my mind I figure improve breathing in and breathing out and remap to optimise fueling/response etc...
Cheers
Thanks for heads up re IPD. Are you suggesting it's a waste of time...lots of conflicting info out there. To my mind I figure improve breathing in and breathing out and remap to optimise fueling/response etc...
Cheers
Yep I've researched quite a bit and it looked like 82mm throttle and IPD was best option. Not sure how much the IPD improves vs standard as some say a lot and others say nowt..
I think doing one bit without the other poss brings minimal gains so need bigger throttle and 200 cels and map to get the gains ..
Anyhow sorry thread has gone off piste a bit but my point was that improved chassis, improved responsiveness and increased noise can really accentuate any model and deliver a much more rewarding drive IMO. A bit more grunt may be needed if chassis is really capable but I agree that less is more sometimes and certainly I think the constant power increases of new models is getting tiresome and missing the point.
I think doing one bit without the other poss brings minimal gains so need bigger throttle and 200 cels and map to get the gains ..
Anyhow sorry thread has gone off piste a bit but my point was that improved chassis, improved responsiveness and increased noise can really accentuate any model and deliver a much more rewarding drive IMO. A bit more grunt may be needed if chassis is really capable but I agree that less is more sometimes and certainly I think the constant power increases of new models is getting tiresome and missing the point.
Edmundo2 said:
The car..
Photos courtesy of the previous owner as I haven't been able to take any as only had it a week before lock down...Just managed to get a blast to Buttertubs Pass last Saturday morning before the call went out. Loved it but think it could still be improved with an extra 15% noise, an extra 15% power, a map that makes throttle more responsive and improves curve to eliminate a slight flag spot, a slightly firmer brake pedal etc...All quite easy to do and relatively affordable when you consider the end result...I'd like a mini GT3 feel but with 50/50 weight distribution...Granted it will never be Mezger and I don't want to spoil the base car but it already feels great so can only imagine turning things up a notch will only go to make every drive even more of an occasion..
I like it. Midnight Blue?Photos courtesy of the previous owner as I haven't been able to take any as only had it a week before lock down...Just managed to get a blast to Buttertubs Pass last Saturday morning before the call went out. Loved it but think it could still be improved with an extra 15% noise, an extra 15% power, a map that makes throttle more responsive and improves curve to eliminate a slight flag spot, a slightly firmer brake pedal etc...All quite easy to do and relatively affordable when you consider the end result...I'd like a mini GT3 feel but with 50/50 weight distribution...Granted it will never be Mezger and I don't want to spoil the base car but it already feels great so can only imagine turning things up a notch will only go to make every drive even more of an occasion..
Those buckets look the part too.
anonymous said:
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Thanks for the advice. The front tyres that the car came with (some nearly new 'sporty' Nexens) and a possible need for a good alignment aren't helping matters, but I hadn't considered going down a wheel size to improve the steering, mostly because I hadn't detected any difference in feel between the CS on 18s and the Boxster on 19s.The first world dilemma is whether to invest in tyres and a good set up, or put that money into some 17" alloys as you suggest. Or just keep things as they are and move the car on as I originally planned. I think I'll go for the alignment first as the steering wheel is off-centre when the car is tracking straight.
Thanks also to everyone else who has contributed.
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