covid - what jobs will be around after?
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sooo with loads of companies going bust and people losing their jobs what opportunities are there for flexible working people? could the companies that have gone bust be reestablished more streamlined, what careers are going to be popular, where should one focus training and resources?
thoughts? i do web bits but wonder how many bored people will be taking web courses whilst off and flood the market
if you had money to invest in startups where would you go. eg if lots of hipster type small companies are going under but they were doing well until then could you copy them etc
petemurphy said:
sooo with loads of companies going bust and people losing their jobs what opportunities are there for flexible working people? could the companies that have gone bust be reestablished more streamlined, what careers are going to be popular, where should one focus training and resources?
thoughts? i do web bits but wonder how many bored people will be taking web courses whilst off and flood the market
if you had money to invest in startups where would you go. eg if lots of hipster type small companies are going under but they were doing well until then could you copy them etc
I think the answer is...nobody knows. We've never had a global situation like this before.thoughts? i do web bits but wonder how many bored people will be taking web courses whilst off and flood the market
if you had money to invest in startups where would you go. eg if lots of hipster type small companies are going under but they were doing well until then could you copy them etc
I would guess that after the Cover threat has been reduced such that the UK can get back to work the Government will try to stimulate aspects of the economy to get people working. Building work springs to mind, and large infrastructure projects (HS2 will probably get hurried up a bit) but other sectors could also get stimulus.
While I'm furloughed I'm trying to think of what training to do as I think that there is a good chance my company could go under in the next few months. At nearly 50 it will be very difficult to find something where I can start off at a low level and work my way up again as even the low-paid jobs (ie sub-£20k) locally want experience and qualifications.
95JO said:
Pretty much everything in the public sector and Government.
I know that DWP are looking to recruit a lot of temporary staff (which will probably end up permanent in a lot of cases) for administrative work right now... I imagine it'll be a similar story at HMRC.
Fraud investigations to see if furlough implemented properly I know that DWP are looking to recruit a lot of temporary staff (which will probably end up permanent in a lot of cases) for administrative work right now... I imagine it'll be a similar story at HMRC.
TX.
95JO said:
boyse7en said:
At nearly 50 it will be very difficult to find something where I can start off at a low level and work my way up again as even the low-paid jobs (ie sub-£20k) locally want experience and qualifications.
See above.Yes there is the layout for tests, DCPC ETC, but could be an option for anyone who is unfortunate enough to lose their job due to the current situation.
I believe there are companies/schemes that pay for your training and test upfront, but then you will probably be tied into a deal with them for 2 years or so, but at least you'd get the much needed 'experience.'
After that there are options at moving onto better things, there are still some decent jobs to be had out there, 45k gross is obtainable if you know where to look.
Due to the current situation the industry seems to be screaming out for drivers although that will change if and when we get back to some form of normality, but until the robots take over it may be an option for some.
All the power stations shutting down and the increase in electric use for Network Rail (our biggest electricity user) base load power station work from design to construction to ops should sort out 50,000 to 100,000 jobs (many but not all already extant) in the next decade. Probably quite a bit in the NW and N Wales at first.
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kedoffcontractordotcomchilistrucker said:
Lorry driving as a possible option should you need it.
Yes there is the layout for tests, DCPC ETC, but could be an option for anyone who is unfortunate enough to lose their job due to the current situation.
I believe there are companies/schemes that pay for your training and test upfront, but then you will probably be tied into a deal with them for 2 years or so, but at least you'd get the much needed 'experience.'
After that there are options at moving onto better things, there are still some decent jobs to be had out there, 45k gross is obtainable if you know where to look.
Due to the current situation the industry seems to be screaming out for drivers although that will change if and when we get back to some form of normality, but until the robots take over it may be an option for some.
I'm seriously thinking about this, have done on and off for a few years, I think it's about time I do the training and tests. If I don't get on with it at least I'll have it to fall back on I guess. Yes there is the layout for tests, DCPC ETC, but could be an option for anyone who is unfortunate enough to lose their job due to the current situation.
I believe there are companies/schemes that pay for your training and test upfront, but then you will probably be tied into a deal with them for 2 years or so, but at least you'd get the much needed 'experience.'
After that there are options at moving onto better things, there are still some decent jobs to be had out there, 45k gross is obtainable if you know where to look.
Due to the current situation the industry seems to be screaming out for drivers although that will change if and when we get back to some form of normality, but until the robots take over it may be an option for some.
CX53 said:
I'm seriously thinking about this, have done on and off for a few years, I think it's about time I do the training and tests. If I don't get on with it at least I'll have it to fall back on I guess.
It is worth considering as an option, once you've got it, it is always there should you ever need it. It certainly wouldn't suit everyone and like anything it has its pluses and minuses, but if you have the right mindset you can make it work.It has served me pretty well for most of the last 29 years.
In certain industries and job roles it is improving already, some companies are adapting well others not so much.
I am looking for a new role at the moment and have had 2 jobs frozen, but I suspect they will come back quickly once processes have adapted fully. From a candidate perspective competition is definitely up, but not as much as I thought it would be.
For me industry is less of a concern, but what is happening at the moment is impacting on what is available. That being said for those that have adapted or are the right industries there is a lot more talent around!
I am looking for a new role at the moment and have had 2 jobs frozen, but I suspect they will come back quickly once processes have adapted fully. From a candidate perspective competition is definitely up, but not as much as I thought it would be.
For me industry is less of a concern, but what is happening at the moment is impacting on what is available. That being said for those that have adapted or are the right industries there is a lot more talent around!
chilistrucker said:
It is worth considering as an option, once you've got it, it is always there should you ever need it. It certainly wouldn't suit everyone and like anything it has its pluses and minuses, but if you have the right mindset you can make it work.
It has served me pretty well for most of the last 29 years.
My job is secure as long as I don't get sacked, but getting my HGV licence is my back up plan if I have enough of my current job. It has served me pretty well for most of the last 29 years.
chilistrucker said:
It is worth considering as an option, once you've got it, it is always there should you ever need it. It certainly wouldn't suit everyone and like anything it has its pluses and minuses, but if you have the right mindset you can make it work.
It has served me pretty well for most of the last 29 years.
That's good to know, thanks. It has served me pretty well for most of the last 29 years.
I think the main reason I haven't gone for it yet is how busy the roads are. I love driving, but it can be incredibly frustrating at times during daylight hours. I love driving at night, but I'm not keen on working nights. Maybe early shifts would suit, a bit of both...
Have you found it easy enough to find permanent secure work? I see tons of agency vacancies advertised, but after being a Ltd company contractor for years, I want something more steady going forward.
I think there will be a concerted push for automation post Covid-19. All these "key worker" jobs in retail, food service, warehousing, refuge collection could easily be automated if the will was there.
In turn a lot of companies have vast cottage industries of people who's job it is to key data from one system to another, manually manipulate spreadsheets and so on. All these jobs could be automated - and maybe the focus on how reliant companies are on humans to do these jobs could be the driver.
Therefore, I'd be looking to move in to any job associated with automation. Could be things like self-service, robotics or even systems.
In turn a lot of companies have vast cottage industries of people who's job it is to key data from one system to another, manually manipulate spreadsheets and so on. All these jobs could be automated - and maybe the focus on how reliant companies are on humans to do these jobs could be the driver.
Therefore, I'd be looking to move in to any job associated with automation. Could be things like self-service, robotics or even systems.
CX53 said:
chilistrucker said:
It is worth considering as an option, once you've got it, it is always there should you ever need it. It certainly wouldn't suit everyone and like anything it has its pluses and minuses, but if you have the right mindset you can make it work.
It has served me pretty well for most of the last 29 years.
That's good to know, thanks. It has served me pretty well for most of the last 29 years.
I think the main reason I haven't gone for it yet is how busy the roads are. I love driving, but it can be incredibly frustrating at times during daylight hours. I love driving at night, but I'm not keen on working nights. Maybe early shifts would suit, a bit of both...
Have you found it easy enough to find permanent secure work? I see tons of agency vacancies advertised, but after being a Ltd company contractor for years, I want something more steady going forward.
When I got my licences back I got the first job I applied for, (2 years ago) I'm still there now and I do trunk runs for one of the big global parcel carriers. Started on nights for the reasons you state but soon got bored with the constant overnight road closures on my route.
Had a chat with work, and now do an early ish start, 5am and am in and out of London most of the day, and normally finished by 2pm. Yes the traffic can be a ball ache, but over the years I've become used to it.
Wasn't sure if I'd last at the start as I was never the greatest at working in the big firm mentality, but once I got my mind set right it was fine. Decent pay, holidays and pension and suits me down to the ground. It can be a bit dull compared to the last lorry job I had, but I'm 50 this year and just wanted the easy life.
I think as a new starter the hardest thing is always getting the crucial experience, there are firms out there but a lot are at the lower end of the pay scale, not as a rule, just my findings. Agencies are a great way too start as it can often be varied work and at peak times, (like now) agencies just want to get bums on seats. Bear in mind though that when things are quieter, agencies will still put the same adverts out there, but they may not have quite the amount of work that they are claiming too.
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