Furlough - legalities of who is furlough'd
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Morning all
Does anyone know if there are rules around who is furlough'd at all? My wife has been with her company for 17 years in a team of 4 and the others have been there 5 years, 1 year and 4 months respectively.
Doesn't need to be on a last in, first out basis or can any of them be chosen randomly?
Does anyone know if there are rules around who is furlough'd at all? My wife has been with her company for 17 years in a team of 4 and the others have been there 5 years, 1 year and 4 months respectively.
Doesn't need to be on a last in, first out basis or can any of them be chosen randomly?
As I found out earlier this week it needs an employee to be in role from 28/2/20 or before else they do not qualify.
I have to furlough someone who joined after that date I’m dreading the conservation
as they will get nothing.
Also I’ve been involved with grading roles individuals so we have waves of furlough (me in clouded at a future point). These so far are suggestions but it’s brutal and extremely sad.
Anyone can be furloughed
I have to furlough someone who joined after that date I’m dreading the conservation
as they will get nothing. Also I’ve been involved with grading roles individuals so we have waves of furlough (me in clouded at a future point). These so far are suggestions but it’s brutal and extremely sad.
Anyone can be furloughed
There are no rules, its entirely down to the company to choose - length of service etc... have no bearing on this at all.
Companies will look at who is critical, then who costs the least most likely, and furlough everyone else. So long-serving (higher paid?), non-critical will be benched toot-suite.
Companies will look at who is critical, then who costs the least most likely, and furlough everyone else. So long-serving (higher paid?), non-critical will be benched toot-suite.
Welshbeef said:
As I found out earlier this week it needs an employee to be in role from 28/2/20 or before else they do not qualify.
I have to furlough someone who joined after that date I’m dreading the conservation as they will get nothing.
Also I’ve been involved with grading roles individuals so we have waves of furlough (me in clouded at a future point). These so far are suggestions but it’s brutal and extremely sad.
Anyone can be furloughed
Chin up, look for the silver lining.I have to furlough someone who joined after that date I’m dreading the conservation
as they will get nothing. Also I’ve been involved with grading roles individuals so we have waves of furlough (me in clouded at a future point). These so far are suggestions but it’s brutal and extremely sad.
Anyone can be furloughed
Welshbeef said:
As I found out earlier this week it needs an employee to be in role from 28/2/20 or before else they do not qualify.
I have to furlough someone who joined after that date I’m dreading the conservation as they will get nothing.
Also I’ve been involved with grading roles individuals so we have waves of furlough (me in clouded at a future point). These so far are suggestions but it’s brutal and extremely sad.
Anyone can be furloughed
Didnt i read that if they arent able to recieve it from you they can ask there previous employer to apply for it for them? CONFIRMED: Lost your job due to coronavirus, or were in process of changing job? Old employers can rehire you to furlough youI have to furlough someone who joined after that date I’m dreading the conservation
as they will get nothing. Also I’ve been involved with grading roles individuals so we have waves of furlough (me in clouded at a future point). These so far are suggestions but it’s brutal and extremely sad.
Anyone can be furloughed
Before the furlough support was announced, many people were laid off by panicking firms. And then there were some unlucky people who voluntarily resigned one job to go to another, eg, to start a new job that's now fallen through.
We've had it confirmed that in either of these scenarios, you could be eligible for furlough, but only if your old employer agrees to take you back on to its payroll AND you were on its payroll on 28 February. Sadly, there are no guarantees that you'll be offered furlough retrospectively, but speak to your old employer anyway and ask it to help you.
If you're an employer, we'd urge all employers to do what you can – you're not playing fast and loose doing this, you're doing what's intended.
It's worth pointing out though that this is aimed at helping those who find themselves out of work due to coronavirus - so if for example you were already in the process of being made redundant when coronavirus hit, or if you chose to leave your job and didn't have any intention of taking up a new one, you're unlikely to be able to be furloughed.
If you've been laid off since 28 February and want to try and get furloughed by your old employer, then:
Get in touch with employer.
Explain the furlough process to them.
Show your employer HMRC's guidance on the furlough scheme.
Watch Martin's video on the furlough process.
One of Martin's friends tried this, and was successful...
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2020/03/cor...
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Hello
On this subject I have a question.
I worked for a Company through an Agency since Dec 2019
On March 16 2020 I was taken on full time , by the same company.
I still am employed by them.
However , due to my age , I would like to be furloughed .
I asked my manager and he said because I was not on the Staff Payroll at the beginning of March, I was working for him as a Contractor , he cannot furlough me.
Is he correct ???
I suppose I’m lucky to be still working, but at my age I would rather be at home in self-isolation.
Any comments , please ?
On this subject I have a question.
I worked for a Company through an Agency since Dec 2019
On March 16 2020 I was taken on full time , by the same company.
I still am employed by them.
However , due to my age , I would like to be furloughed .
I asked my manager and he said because I was not on the Staff Payroll at the beginning of March, I was working for him as a Contractor , he cannot furlough me.
Is he correct ???
I suppose I’m lucky to be still working, but at my age I would rather be at home in self-isolation.
Any comments , please ?
Sam99 said:
Hello
On this subject I have a question.
I worked for a Company through an Agency since Dec 2019
On March 16 2020 I was taken on full time , by the same company.
I still am employed by them.
However , due to my age , I would like to be furloughed .
I asked my manager and he said because I was not on the Staff Payroll at the beginning of March, I was working for him as a Contractor , he cannot furlough me.
Is he correct ???
I suppose I’m lucky to be still working, but at my age I would rather be at home in self-isolation.
Any comments , please ?
Unfortunately yes, he is correct. In order to qualify the employee must have been on the employer’s payroll at 28 February 2020 (yes, 28th rather than 29th - unsure if this was intentional by HMRC or not).On this subject I have a question.
I worked for a Company through an Agency since Dec 2019
On March 16 2020 I was taken on full time , by the same company.
I still am employed by them.
However , due to my age , I would like to be furloughed .
I asked my manager and he said because I was not on the Staff Payroll at the beginning of March, I was working for him as a Contractor , he cannot furlough me.
Is he correct ???
I suppose I’m lucky to be still working, but at my age I would rather be at home in self-isolation.
Any comments , please ?
Plenty of useful info here.
Quite a few in the same boat, presumably to stop people putting everyone onto a PAYE scheme after it was announced to protect against false claims.
Jimboka said:
Wife’s friend also works for NHS, at a doctors surgery
She has to self isolate for 12 weeks due to Chemo a few years ago
Doctors/accountant trying to furlough
Is that right? A proper use of taxpayers money?
Im in the same boat, having 12 weeks off, my company were trying to avoid furlough so i was stuck on SSP, but it now seems they might not have a choice, so ive emailed and asked to be furloughed, as im going to end up paying somewhere along the lines so why not take it if i can? She has to self isolate for 12 weeks due to Chemo a few years ago
Doctors/accountant trying to furlough
Is that right? A proper use of taxpayers money?
Welshbeef said:
cossy400 said:
What if your not ill just shielding on the orders of the NHS etc?
Then you can be furloughed. just i guess a you dont ask you dont get kind of post.
Im high risk of catching CV so 2 weeks ago, i got my text on the Monday and my letter from the NHS on the Tuesday.
Spoke to my line manager who was fine and said it was fine and to get off home, but id only be paid sick pay, as the company was hoping to avoid furlough because alot of the work is "key worker" stuff and with people working from home etc the people on the floor as such would still be needed..
So i booked a days holiday for every week im off to use them and to absorb the hit a little rather than the £94 a week.
BUT this weekend ive been ready the company portal and theres an "update" that saying that even the floor staff as well as the office are looking like they are going to have to furlough.
So would i be being cheeky to ask if i can be furloughed? or should i just suck it up?
If you are £37,500 and are furloughed a smart way to play it is to take 1 days annual leave every week. This in a situation where your company are not topping up.
You’ll get full salary for up to 6 months - assuming furlough lasts that long for not doing one jot of work.
Then no leave Oct-Dec and the new annual leave year starts in Dec. You cannot lose.
You’ll get full salary for up to 6 months - assuming furlough lasts that long for not doing one jot of work.
Then no leave Oct-Dec and the new annual leave year starts in Dec. You cannot lose.
We are told to use a selection matrix, similar to a redundancy one, to decide who is furloughed (in the event of multiple people in the same role and only a portion needing to be furloughed)
You can furlough people who are shielding for CV. You can't, I'm told, furlough people who are self-isolating with symptoms or due to symptoms in the household.
You can furlough people who are shielding for CV. You can't, I'm told, furlough people who are self-isolating with symptoms or due to symptoms in the household.
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