High GPU Temps

[stevesingo]

My son has a PC which he uses for gaming, specced by the good people on this forum;

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Since then I upgraded the RAM and GPU so now the spec is as follows;

Mother board: Gigayte GA-A320-2SH
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz
RAM: 16Gb 2666Mhz
GPU Gigabyte 2060 Super 8Gb

The issue is, when trying to run COD MW on 144Hz 1440p, the GPU is reaching 86degC and only delivering 70-75Hz frame rate.

CPU temps are showing as 55-65degC with 65% utilisation.

I have adjusted the motherboard fan speed in the BIOS to be essentially 100% all he time, but not a jot of difference.

Any thoughts?

Thanks

[Dave.]

Drivers up to date?

Has it always done it or just recently started?

Just one game or all/any?

Do you get good performance straight after boot until it heats up or is it always poor?

Have you tried turning gfx settings down to minimum?

Are the fans running on the gtx card?

How are you monitoring the tennis and clock speeds

[TEKNOPUG]

That sounds right for 1440p 144hz. Try turning the graphic settings down in game.

[130R]

That's the fps you would expect at 1440p with a 2060S. You can try disabling raytracing if that is enabled in the graphics settings to get slightly better performance.

To reduce GPU temps you would need more case airflow. I doubt you will see a big change though as temps will almost entirely be driven by the cooling on that particular card.

[TEKNOPUG]

Try installing Razer Cortex

https://www.razer.com/cortex/boost

It can automatically adjust your game settings to increase FPS amongst other features.

[HRL]

Tried adjusting the fans on the GPU itself?

My 2080Ti only hits 70C with the fans on auto and that’s with a hefty overclock too.

Are you sure your son hasn’t overclocked it and not increased the GPU fan speeds to compensate for the additional heat?

[hutchst]

Has it got a sore throat? Dry cough?

[stevesingo]

Not rally noticed it before, but never looked.

Much the same temps on Fortnite, 70-80fps.

Latest Nvidia drivers installed and I've adjusted the fans to hit 100% at 60deg, so earlier than default.

Not been overclocked.

I ran it last night with the side off the case and it sat at 70-73degC, so may be airflow related.

I could turn the gfx settings down, but that kind of defeats the point of spending £400 on a GPU. I'll give it a go in the name of science.





Temps around 80-83.

The GPU throttling limit is 83degC

Edited by stevesingo on Saturday 4th April 13:32

Edited by stevesingo on Saturday 4th April 13:50

[TEKNOPUG]

If the temp was an issue, the GPU will start throttling back. You should be able to find the temp limits for the GPU online. On Cortex, are you able to go into Booster Prime for the game and get it to adjust the settings for increased FPS?

[HRL]

Could well be air flow then.

Care to share a pic of the inside?

[TEKNOPUG]

TEKNOPUG said:

If the temp was an issue, the GPU will start throttling back. You should be able to find the temp limits for the GPU online. On Cortex, are you able to go into Booster Prime for the game and get it to adjust the settings for increased FPS?

Ultimately you may just need a better case and fans. I bought the biggest tower case I could find when I last upgraded my PC, just so airflow would never be a limiting factor.

[stevesingo]

Updated my previous post with Fortnite.

I might get a PCIEx extension cable and temporarily remote the GPU outside the case in free air. Should eliminate case temps.

[TEKNOPUG]

As said, mid 70s is what I would expect with that card on ultra and 1440p. You may just need to tweak a couple of settings to get it to run without causing throttling. It's the reason I still game at 1080p as I think you really need an 80 series card for 1440p and its a fair chunk of cash when you include the monitor also. I plan to wait until my next PC upgrade in a few years and go straight to 4k.

I run a RTX2060 in my laptop and a 1660ti in my desktop, both at 1080p and happy with the performance of both.

[JustALooseScrew]

hutchst said:

Has it got a sore throat? Dry cough?

That made me laugh.

[HM-2]

What's your case airflow like? Positioning? There's lots of factors that could influence the ability to cool (or not) really. Though those temperatures are not that bad for a GPU under high utilisation, my 2080 will frequently push 80°C during benchmarking/stress testing workloads and low 70s in gaming, running a 165Hz 1440p monitor- sometimes even higher with Ray Tracing.

Throttling temperatures vary from vendor to vendor but you probably won't see significant thermal throttling until you hit ~85°C in most cases (I know for most Pascal cards it was 87°C before thermal throttling kicked in). I actually tend to throttle due to voltage limitations rather than heat (though I do run a substantial overclock); IIRC your card is factory overclocked as well so...

It might be worth using a tool like HWMonitor to see if thermal throttling is actually occuring and to what extent. It might be that it's pushing very high clock speeds as a lot of factory overclocked cards do when boosting (2000+MHz isn't unheard of).

Edited by HM-2 on Saturday 4th April 16:48

[sparkyhx]

room for more fans on the case? or look at upgrading them, check filters to see if not clogged, can the fan be relocated(or additional) to provide better flow over the GPU

[stevesingo]

Having had another look in the case I can see two problems:

1. The WiFi Adaptor https://www.asus.com/uk/Networking/PCE-AC88/ is sat covering one of the GPU fans, obscuring maybe 40% of the intake area of one of the two fans. This is a consequence of the motherboard layout.



2. The Case layout is st. Having done some googling they all seem pretty st.



https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/core...

There is one 120mm fan which sits on the face with the cover off near the bottom.

Having done some googling all cases seem pretty st. In my mind intakes should be adjacent to fan entries with a clear path. Hot air should be exhausted through the case away from the intakes.

The plan is then;

1. Get a PCIex ribbon and relocate the WiFi card to the case slot above the GPU card.

2. Get a new case with better airflow management. I was thinking of https://uk.thermaltake.com/core-v21.html

Thoughts?

[Digger]

Where is the 120mm fan in that picture? That is also a spare mount for a second fan top left of the internal photo? That one would probably be best as the exhaust fan, as its high up in the case. I am surprised not to see one there to be honest.

Consider if at all possible getting an Ethernet cable in to his room & ditch the wifi card? Alternatively a USB wifi adapter on the outside of the PC.

Unless of course you want to buy a new case, in which case go for it.

[stevesingo]

The fan is on the removed panel of the case.

A new case (£65) would be cheaper and less effort than running in an ethernet cable.

Looking at the case, pushing air around in random directions in that case probably won't help.

[TEKNOPUG]

I have this one:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/silverstone-raven-3...

Only not in gold!

The motherboard is rotated by 90 degrees, so the fans are at the bottom and exhaust at the top, working with the heat and airflow, rather than fighting against it.