Practically of the 6 feet social distancing rule
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I haven’t been in the supermarket once where people are able to do it. No one is doing it on purpose, but once inside it’s all a bit of a terribly polite, after you, English dance with as much gap as possible but rarely 6ft/2m.
I read an article recently which was quoting the experts from a badly hit area of Germany. They were claiming in all the tracing and monitoring they couldnt find a single case of it spreading in a shop or hairdressers. It was in the dailymail and I have no idea how qualified the experts were though.
I read an article recently which was quoting the experts from a badly hit area of Germany. They were claiming in all the tracing and monitoring they couldnt find a single case of it spreading in a shop or hairdressers. It was in the dailymail and I have no idea how qualified the experts were though.
I think it's a bit silly tbh but realise it's come about because people can't be trusted to be sensible.
It was only a short while ago they had no concerns unless you were in close contact for 15 min.
Now you have people jumping into the road. It's a good thing there is a lot less road traffic at present!
It was only a short while ago they had no concerns unless you were in close contact for 15 min.
Now you have people jumping into the road. It's a good thing there is a lot less road traffic at present!
It's ok saying social distance outside, in the park, in a queue but it's impossible to do it 100% in my local big Tesco and they have all the lines and measures in place.
They only let about 20-30 in at once so the place looks empty but when you get to a wide aisle and need past are you actually supposed to wait until they back away down the aisle and not pass them even if the aisle is wide enough so there is a 1m gap.
I usually move to the other side of the aisle and then hold my breath when I go past.
They only let about 20-30 in at once so the place looks empty but when you get to a wide aisle and need past are you actually supposed to wait until they back away down the aisle and not pass them even if the aisle is wide enough so there is a 1m gap.
I usually move to the other side of the aisle and then hold my breath when I go past.
Yes, practically impossible the way things are in supermarkets still. People generally trying to keep as far apart as possible, but 2m is never being maintained. The only way would be to enforce a one way system and make people go all the way round in order. I know I'd find that extremely difficult, as I seem to end up zig zagging back through the shop to pickup things I hadn't realised I needed (because they go with something else I could/couldn't get further around).
I live very rural (a definite blessing right now), and only civilisation I've interacted with in 3 weeks is a few trips to the supermarket. And it's scary - only needs one infected person to go round touching stuff and the whole place is going to be contaminated in random spots. I've no alternative but to take my youngest child with me, and of course he can't keep his hands to himself, constantly touching his face and who knows what else.
But what I really don't understand is why the supermarkets don't have hand sanitiser on the way in (and out)?
I live very rural (a definite blessing right now), and only civilisation I've interacted with in 3 weeks is a few trips to the supermarket. And it's scary - only needs one infected person to go round touching stuff and the whole place is going to be contaminated in random spots. I've no alternative but to take my youngest child with me, and of course he can't keep his hands to himself, constantly touching his face and who knows what else.
But what I really don't understand is why the supermarkets don't have hand sanitiser on the way in (and out)?
SpeedBash said:
But that's always been known. In a confined space like a tube train you're f
ked if they sneeze without and suppression. Most places if the person covers the sneeze/cough you'd be alright.Flumpo said:
I haven’t been in the supermarket once where people are able to do it. No one is doing it on purpose, but once inside it’s all a bit of a terribly polite, after you, English dance with as much gap as possible but rarely 6ft/2m.
I read an article recently which was quoting the experts from a badly hit area of Germany. They were claiming in all the tracing and monitoring they couldnt find a single case of it spreading in a shop or hairdressers. It was in the dailymail and I have no idea how qualified the experts were though.
Didn't that Wetherspoons bloke claim no known cases of C19 spreading in pubs. I read an article recently which was quoting the experts from a badly hit area of Germany. They were claiming in all the tracing and monitoring they couldnt find a single case of it spreading in a shop or hairdressers. It was in the dailymail and I have no idea how qualified the experts were though.
PositronicRay said:
Re the 2m thing you need to set guidelines. Sometimes they'll be flouted or impractical, but at least you have a starting baseline.
Same as work targets, you've got something to aim for.
That sounds reasonable. Same as work targets, you've got something to aim for.
I’m not an expert like, presumably, some here are but if it’s not being spread in supermarkets, shops, pubs, in the street, you name it, where is it being spread?
REALIST123 said:
PositronicRay said:
Re the 2m thing you need to set guidelines. Sometimes they'll be flouted or impractical, but at least you have a starting baseline.
Same as work targets, you've got something to aim for.
That sounds reasonable. Same as work targets, you've got something to aim for.
I’m not an expert like, presumably, some here are but if it’s not being spread in supermarkets, shops, pubs, in the street, you name it, where is it being spread?
Which is exactly what it is designed to do
Sometimes I think I live in a different country to others on here. When out for my daily walk if you approach another person on a pavement one of the other person either steps into the road or into a garden to maintain distance. At both our local shops and the petrol station cum grocery store there is a one way system with two metre square boxes. Everybody keeps to their own box and waits for others shopping to clear the box before continuing. At the till there is a box you keep outside the shop worker steps back to allow you to put your shopping on the counter then you step back and they scan it then steps back to allow you to pay. Every surface is cleaned between each customer and self service tills are also wiped over between customers.
The local BIB have been very active in the town and on the beach talking to anybody who appears to be breaking the rules especially the local drunks and beggars who no longer hang around the town centre. AIUI they are being housed in a local hotel away from the town The BIB are working with the almost universal support of the public who consider that they are doing an excellent job.
As far as I can tell almost everybody is following the rules on self-isolation. Apart from those still working nobody in our road goes out apart from shopping and exercise and the one guy who looks after his elderly parents who live a couple of miles away. May be this is why infection rates are so low here...
The local BIB have been very active in the town and on the beach talking to anybody who appears to be breaking the rules especially the local drunks and beggars who no longer hang around the town centre. AIUI they are being housed in a local hotel away from the town The BIB are working with the almost universal support of the public who consider that they are doing an excellent job.
As far as I can tell almost everybody is following the rules on self-isolation. Apart from those still working nobody in our road goes out apart from shopping and exercise and the one guy who looks after his elderly parents who live a couple of miles away. May be this is why infection rates are so low here...
If you're talking face to face, 2 metres might be just enough. If either of you is coughing or sneezing, many metres more is advisable. If you pass someone on a path or supermarket aisle, the risk is minimal even with less clearance but try to leave 2 metres if you can. Classic example of 'for the guidance of wise men'.
REALIST123 said:
That sounds reasonable.
I’m not an expert like, presumably, some here are but if it’s not being spread in supermarkets, shops, pubs, in the street, you name it, where is it being spread?
Doctor or scientist on the radio estimated that 80% of infections occurred within the home.I’m not an expert like, presumably, some here are but if it’s not being spread in supermarkets, shops, pubs, in the street, you name it, where is it being spread?
Oh, and the virus was 10,000th of a mm, so scarfs and masks were not recommended. Although they could limit droplets if someone is coughing and sneezing, in which case they shouldn't be out in public anyway.
Vanden Saab said:
Sometimes I think I live in a different country to others on here. When out for my daily walk if you approach another person on a pavement one of the other person either steps into the road or into a garden to maintain distance. At both our local shops and the petrol station cum grocery store there is a one way system with two metre square boxes. Everybody keeps to their own box and waits for others shopping to clear the box before continuing. At the till there is a box you keep outside the shop worker steps back to allow you to put your shopping on the counter then you step back and they scan it then steps back to allow you to pay. Every surface is cleaned between each customer and self service tills are also wiped over between customers.
The local BIB have been very active in the town and on the beach talking to anybody who appears to be breaking the rules especially the local drunks and beggars who no longer hang around the town centre. AIUI they are being housed in a local hotel away from the town The BIB are working with the almost universal support of the public who consider that they are doing an excellent job.
As far as I can tell almost everybody is following the rules on self-isolation. Apart from those still working nobody in our road goes out apart from shopping and exercise and the one guy who looks after his elderly parents who live a couple of miles away. May be this is why infection rates are so low here...
Sounds suspicious, what dark secrets are they desperately hiding by putting in this faux show of perfection? The local BIB have been very active in the town and on the beach talking to anybody who appears to be breaking the rules especially the local drunks and beggars who no longer hang around the town centre. AIUI they are being housed in a local hotel away from the town The BIB are working with the almost universal support of the public who consider that they are doing an excellent job.
As far as I can tell almost everybody is following the rules on self-isolation. Apart from those still working nobody in our road goes out apart from shopping and exercise and the one guy who looks after his elderly parents who live a couple of miles away. May be this is why infection rates are so low here...
Follow the money....
Imagine if you were a dustbin man or a driver on the dust carts.
Having to contact hundreds of bins each day. Having to sit in a cab just inches from 1 or 2 other men (generally). Social distancing is impossible for them. If one bloke has it and sneezes then the other blokes in the cab stand no chance.
Those worrying about someone getting slightly too close for a few seconds on their walk seem to have no perspective.
Same goes for NHS staff. My partner is a pharmacist. Currently locuming in the community. No PPE. Having to give methadone to the homeless drug users (zero chance most of them are socially distancing). Having to deal with people coming in with colds for meds. They even had to call the coppers the other day when the methadone addicts threatened to smash the pharmacy up and spit on the staff as they had to wait like everyone else. They didn't get arrested - the police just waited whilst they got their methadone.
Anyone currently working can't socially distance. And anyone who needs to go to the shops cannot either. These measures are to help slow it all down, not to stop it.
Having to contact hundreds of bins each day. Having to sit in a cab just inches from 1 or 2 other men (generally). Social distancing is impossible for them. If one bloke has it and sneezes then the other blokes in the cab stand no chance.
Those worrying about someone getting slightly too close for a few seconds on their walk seem to have no perspective.
Same goes for NHS staff. My partner is a pharmacist. Currently locuming in the community. No PPE. Having to give methadone to the homeless drug users (zero chance most of them are socially distancing). Having to deal with people coming in with colds for meds. They even had to call the coppers the other day when the methadone addicts threatened to smash the pharmacy up and spit on the staff as they had to wait like everyone else. They didn't get arrested - the police just waited whilst they got their methadone.
Anyone currently working can't socially distance. And anyone who needs to go to the shops cannot either. These measures are to help slow it all down, not to stop it.
Vanden Saab said:
Sometimes I think I live in a different country to others on here. When out for my daily walk if you approach another person on a pavement one of the other person either steps into the road or into a garden to maintain distance. At both our local shops and the petrol station cum grocery store there is a one way system with two metre square boxes. Everybody keeps to their own box and waits for others shopping to clear the box before continuing. At the till there is a box you keep outside the shop worker steps back to allow you to put your shopping on the counter then you step back and they scan it then steps back to allow you to pay. Every surface is cleaned between each customer and self service tills are also wiped over between customers.
The local BIB have been very active in the town and on the beach talking to anybody who appears to be breaking the rules especially the local drunks and beggars who no longer hang around the town centre. AIUI they are being housed in a local hotel away from the town The BIB are working with the almost universal support of the public who consider that they are doing an excellent job.
As far as I can tell almost everybody is following the rules on self-isolation. Apart from those still working nobody in our road goes out apart from shopping and exercise and the one guy who looks after his elderly parents who live a couple of miles away. May be this is why infection rates are so low here...
Same here, respectful queues form at pinch points. Infection rates are climbing though, but I haven't been into town for a while. The local BIB have been very active in the town and on the beach talking to anybody who appears to be breaking the rules especially the local drunks and beggars who no longer hang around the town centre. AIUI they are being housed in a local hotel away from the town The BIB are working with the almost universal support of the public who consider that they are doing an excellent job.
As far as I can tell almost everybody is following the rules on self-isolation. Apart from those still working nobody in our road goes out apart from shopping and exercise and the one guy who looks after his elderly parents who live a couple of miles away. May be this is why infection rates are so low here...
Only a fool breaks the 2 meter rule.
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