So sad & avoidable

[Gerradi]

Very very Sad indeed !
Clapping is to late for these guys ...but testing may have saved their lives as they saved others...

https://www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/news/health/gover...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/seni...

[nikaiyo2]

How would testing work?

Would nhs staff get tested at the start of each shift, the end or another time?

Would they be tested every day? Would they not be able to work until test results are known?

Isn’t the testing we currently have a bit like an MOT as in it gives a result at that specific time and is really only valid for that specific time what happens after that makes the test a bit pointless?

[98elise]

Gerradi said:

Very very Sad indeed !
Clapping is to late for these guys ...but testing may have saved their lives as they saved others...

https://www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/news/health/gover...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/seni...

How would it have saved their lives? There isn't treatment for the virus. All it will tell you is if you have it.

[anonymous-user]

Gerradi said:

Very very Sad indeed !
Clapping is to late for these guys ...but testing may have saved their lives as they saved others...

https://www.ilfordrecorder.co.uk/news/health/gover...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/seni...

If people had followed advice and isolated better there may have been less workload...............

Who knows. Sad all round.

[Jasandjules]

If he had adequate PPE it may have helped. Blame the Govt for that, NOT people going shopping etc.

[anonymous-user]

Tragic but how would more testing have helped? Once you've got it you've got it; presumably more or better PPE is what was really needed to stop them getting it in the first place. Seems the Chinese knew 3 months ago and bought up all the worlds hazmat suits! https://www.smh.com.au/national/chinese-backed-com...

[Blue Oval84]

Jasandjules said:

If he had adequate PPE it may have helped. Blame the Govt for that, NOT people going shopping etc.

Not necessarily the government, my Sister in Law works for the NHS and was made to work on a ward without PPE despite raising objections to management. Apparently it wasn't policy to wear it unless patients were symptomatic, no shortage of PPE at all, they had just locked it all in a cupboard.

This finally changed last week, but possibly too late.

[yajeed]

It’s also not a case of people going shopping, more having the self control not to go and sit in a park because it’s sunny, or meet up with your mates for a barbecue, or go riding with your best buddies.

Blaming the government is all well and good (if that’s genuinely your belief as to who is at fault), but let’s not try to make this out to be completely due to any one group.

Collectively, we’ve cocked it up in many areas.

[Sophisticated Sarah]

Blue Oval84 said:

Jasandjules said:

If he had adequate PPE it may have helped. Blame the Govt for that, NOT people going shopping etc.

Not necessarily the government, my Sister in Law works for the NHS and was made to work on a ward without PPE despite raising objections to management. Apparently it wasn't policy to wear it unless patients were symptomatic, no shortage of PPE at all, they had just locked it all in a cupboard.

This finally changed last week, but possibly too late.

Management and admin, the biggest problem with the NHS

[Troubleatmill]

nikaiyo2 said:

How would testing work?

Where are all the massive pharma companies to be able to produce the testing kits en masse?

Once the dust has settled - there does need to be a bit of a rethink on.


"Taking a risk based approach.... ( waffle waffle )...
If the UK does not have the core manufacting to be able to do....

a/ Vacuum cleaners / Big yellow diggers/ Formula 1 piston manufacturers to Ventilators...
b/ Test kits for the latest and nastiest viruses
c/ Whatever else matters
d/ Food
e/ Toilet Paper ( apparently )


We may need a rethink about the type of industries we need to have on our own shores. And the laws that ensures the supplies are kept locally as a priority - any surplus capacity to be sent elsewhere.

The US apparently impounded a motherload of PPE destined to go to the EU based on some 60 year old law that says - All US owned munfacturers must sent the PPE stuff to the USA.

[Brads67]

Sophisticated Sarah said:

Management and admin, the biggest problem with the NHS

Procurement contracts and staff taking the piss more like.