Reverse track layouts

[ajprice]

There has been lots of chat from various people in and around F1, seriously or not seriously, about circuits running a second race on the reverse layout. Here's one about Silverstone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC-F39sb8H4

For the purposes of this thread, ignore any run off/barrier/safety issues and imaginationland it to say these are fixed. What circuit layouts would you like to see a race on the reverse layout? Have you tried any when messing around on the F1 games?

To start, Monaco...
Start line, downhill into Anthony Noghes and Rascasse, pit exit inbetween.
Swimming pool section is a sharper first chicane and faster second chicane.
Tabac into Nouvelle chicane and the tunnel.
Mirabeau and Grand Hotel hairpin uphill.
Out of the tunnel into Casino and Massenet.
Then downhill for Beau Rivage, DRS detection and pit entrance before Saint Devote.
Start finish straight and DRS section.



Down Beau Rivage would be interesting
Up the hairpin, I'm trying to think of any other slow speed uphill corner at any other track.

Any other suggestions? Doesn't have to be a current F1 track.

[bristolracer]

Confusing for the Nascar boys having to turn right for a change

[Lee Jones Jnr]

Essentially I’m happy with any track that can meet safety regs being run in both directions, probably with the exception of Monaco which is a great event to attend but it’s not REALLY a race.

[thegreenhell]

Imagine Spa-Francorchamps in reverse... flat out down the steep Kemmel straight into Eau Rouge...

[thegreenhell]

Here you go. I don't think any of them are particularly improved in reverse, and many of them are markedly worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hywDCM9MWRo

[MissChief]

thegreenhell said:

Imagine Spa-Francorchamps in reverse... flat out down the steep Kemmel straight into Eau Rouge...

There isn’t the run off at a great many of the corners to allow it. Including going down Eau Rouge. Run off zones, asphalt and gravel traps are set up in such a way that they are largest at the end of long straights. Reversing nearly any track would result in dangerously close barriers and most likely the refusal of a Safety certificate and licensing from the FIA.

[Nampahc Niloc]

MissChief said:

thegreenhell said:

Imagine Spa-Francorchamps in reverse... flat out down the steep Kemmel straight into Eau Rouge...

There isn’t the run off at a great many of the corners to allow it. Including going down Eau Rouge. Run off zones, asphalt and gravel traps are set up in such a way that they are largest at the end of long straights. Reversing nearly any track would result in dangerously close barriers and most likely the refusal of a Safety certificate and licensing from the FIA.

Read the original post. It specifically says ignoring the run off issues. What would make a good track. It’s just a hypothetical questions. A bit of fun.

[Mr_Thyroid]

thegreenhell said:

Here you go. I don't think any of them are particularly improved in reverse, and many of them are markedly worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hywDCM9MWRo

I'm not sure it's possible to judge whether a circuit is any good my watching a single car going round in a computer game. Even if it were a race I don't think that game in particular would offer much insight.

As an example, I've played that game a bit and I reckon Russia is probably my 4th or 5th favourite track to drive and we all know it's horse poo for real life racing.

[Deesee]

thegreenhell said:

Imagine Spa-Francorchamps in reverse... flat out down the steep Kemmel straight into Eau Rouge...

Max did that in a 2013 Red Bull on a demo day, Radilion was 4/5th gear turn..

[Gad-Westy]

Interesting question but going through mental images in my head I cannot think of a single track that would be more interesting or even a little bit interesting in reverse. Miserable answer I know but I guess they run that way for a reason!

But on a slight tangent, I wonder which tracks would be significantly quicker one way than another. I suspect Monaco would be a fair bit quicker in reverse as upward incline would help on the two hairpins and the hill climbing would be done in short sharp stabs rather than the one long run up the hill after Saint Devote. That hill in reverse would probably be terrifying and ask some serious questions of brake technique at the bottom. I suspect Spa may also be quicker in reverse for similar sorts of reasons.

[Mr_Thyroid]

Chain bear has done a video on whether Silverstone could be run in reverse including which corners might present a different challenge.

https://youtu.be/BSjLoGljZ3s

[Benrad]

Slightly related, in a regular at Teesside kart track, including entering the 24hr last year

Earlier this year they held a race in reverse around the circuit. It was excellent! Resulted in some new overtaking spots and it was really interesting to have to learn it from scratch. Turning a step uphill chicane (that you fight in understeer through) into a steep downhill one (hello oversteer!) was particularly good, as well as a tightening radius further at the end of a long straight that you entered flat before lifting on the way through

[Roofless Toothless]

Brands Hatch ran anti-clockwise until 1954. I believe the first GP there was only 10 years later.

Edited by Roofless Toothless on Monday 13th April 18:58

[Thundersports]

Roofless Toothless said:

Brands Hatch ran anti-clockwise until 1954. I believe the first GP there was only 10 years later.

Edited by Roofless Toothless on Monday 13th April 18:58

I think Brands ran meetings later than that anti--clockwise.

[thegreenhell]

Mr_Thyroid said:

Chain bear has done a video on whether Silverstone could be run in reverse including which corners might present a different challenge.

https://youtu.be/BSjLoGljZ3s

WTF is 'Chain Bear'? Any relation to Pedobear?

[bigmowley]

Not for me. I did a single venue stage rally at Oulton Park after a good few years racing there. One of the stages was basically an almost complete lap in the reverse direction. It was bloody awful!
Lodge corner is a nightmare the wrong way round, it tightens the whole way round and the Armco is right next to the track on the exit. Cascades isn’t much better but at least it’s uphill. I ended up spanking the tyre chicane that was on the straight just after Cascades. We made a guest appearance on a “Havoc” crashing video for that one, number 3 I think it was.