Cinema room surround system
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I have nothing, does that help 
Gota buy, amp (if not inc. in system) & projector
I’ll be running an optical cable from projector as theres multiple sources going to it, i assume thats the right way..
Eta: looks like projectors dont have optical out so i guess its a case of source to amp / surround system, which means selecting source on amp / surround system each time or do they auto detect now?
Gota buy, amp (if not inc. in system) & projector
I’ll be running an optical cable from projector as theres multiple sources going to it, i assume thats the right way..
Eta: looks like projectors dont have optical out so i guess its a case of source to amp / surround system, which means selecting source on amp / surround system each time or do they auto detect now?
Edited by Pvapour on Friday 10th April 17:38
You can get a 1080P projector, Pioneer receiver and Wharfedale 5.1 speaker package for £1040 (and you'll need some cables on top of that) from Richer sounds - I doubt you'd get in-ceiling speakers/amp/projector for anywhere near £1k if you're buying well known brands.
You could easily pick up older gear second hand within budget provided you're not looking for 4K ultra and 11.4.4 Atmos surround sound!
I'm not sure you'd get a very good cinema effect with all in-ceiling speakers either? But you're correct that all sources plug in to the receiver which sends the image to the projector, and you choose the source via the receiver to swap between them.
You could easily pick up older gear second hand within budget provided you're not looking for 4K ultra and 11.4.4 Atmos surround sound!
I'm not sure you'd get a very good cinema effect with all in-ceiling speakers either? But you're correct that all sources plug in to the receiver which sends the image to the projector, and you choose the source via the receiver to swap between them.
It is surprising what you can achieve with in-ceiling speakers if positioned right and using speakers with directional tweeters at least.
It all depends if you have had a system before, if not, you’ll be amazed and pleased with it, if you have, then it is more surround sound than cinema.
Happy to advise further if needed, but £1000 is very tight.
V
It all depends if you have had a system before, if not, you’ll be amazed and pleased with it, if you have, then it is more surround sound than cinema.
Happy to advise further if needed, but £1000 is very tight.
V
Happy to up budget, was thinking 2-3k for projector + 1k for sound system but happy to play with that if needs be..
It is important we have small discreet speakers overhead (we’ve got an old bose system in our gym with cube speakers and bass bin which we love)
But also the front stud wall by the screen is yet to be built so i could build in speakers quite easily if needs be and mesh cover?
Not had a cinema room before so expect we’ll be impressed, we’re not massively fussy on quality but know good sound when we hear it, we can hear the differences between the Surround sound systems in our cars (Meridien, Burmester, Bose) and i used to install ice systems for sound offs in cars many many years ago (so quite a bass head)
But not a hi end aficionado by any means.
It is important we have small discreet speakers overhead (we’ve got an old bose system in our gym with cube speakers and bass bin which we love)
But also the front stud wall by the screen is yet to be built so i could build in speakers quite easily if needs be and mesh cover?
Not had a cinema room before so expect we’ll be impressed, we’re not massively fussy on quality but know good sound when we hear it, we can hear the differences between the Surround sound systems in our cars (Meridien, Burmester, Bose) and i used to install ice systems for sound offs in cars many many years ago (so quite a bass head)
But not a hi end aficionado by any means.
There are some great bargains to be had on eBay! High end HiFi and AV lovers seem to like to regularly upgrade. I made an AV room in my loft a few years ago and got 5 nearly new Bowers And Wilkes in wall speakers for £250. They are fab. I also got a pair of very early Kef in-walls for my 2 rears which were not so great even though they had never been used.
Another way to keep costs down is to make your own screen. I made mine out of off cuts from the loft conversion. Originally I had a trial setup with 1 layer of black and 2 layers of white lycra to safe more cash, then after a couple of years I bought some proper “ Center Stage UF screen material” from Seymour AV in the USA, which for an 88.5 inches wide and 49.25 inches high screen cost me just under USD300 with shipping to the UK. Th AF material is acoustically transparent as my centre speaker is behind the screen.
The improvement to the picture was fantastic and has made much more of a difference that I expected. The sound improvement was more subtle but definitely there.
Another way to keep costs down is to make your own screen. I made mine out of off cuts from the loft conversion. Originally I had a trial setup with 1 layer of black and 2 layers of white lycra to safe more cash, then after a couple of years I bought some proper “ Center Stage UF screen material” from Seymour AV in the USA, which for an 88.5 inches wide and 49.25 inches high screen cost me just under USD300 with shipping to the UK. Th AF material is acoustically transparent as my centre speaker is behind the screen.
The improvement to the picture was fantastic and has made much more of a difference that I expected. The sound improvement was more subtle but definitely there.
That sounds very cool, I’ll look at the fabric but the centre part where screen is are balcony doors so I have bought an electric screen that comes down out of ceiling, walls to side of screen I can cover though, I like bower Wilkins stuff, sounded great in Jag XF I had.
I’m not looking to save cash tbh so any recommendations on new stuff is welcome
I’m not looking to save cash tbh so any recommendations on new stuff is welcome
I would consider packaging up something like the following for you.
Optoma HD or even Pseudo 4k projector
Yamaha 5.1 or Atmos Amp
Monitor Audio in-ceiling speakers and sub.
Associated cabling
Let me play with some figures and see what falls out.
How easy can you get cables through the ceiling to speakers and projector?
Optoma HD or even Pseudo 4k projector
Yamaha 5.1 or Atmos Amp
Monitor Audio in-ceiling speakers and sub.
Associated cabling
Let me play with some figures and see what falls out.
How easy can you get cables through the ceiling to speakers and projector?
VEX said:
I would consider packaging up something like the following for you.
Optoma HD or even Pseudo 4k projector
Yamaha 5.1 or Atmos Amp
Monitor Audio in-ceiling speakers and sub.
Associated cabling
Let me play with some figures and see what falls out.
How easy can you get cables through the ceiling to speakers and projector?
Thanks, very easy for cabling, pretty much no seperate audio cable needs to go to projector then.. i would prefer a projector that outputs optical if possible as it would negate the need to change input on amp constantly but understand if not possible. Optoma HD or even Pseudo 4k projector
Yamaha 5.1 or Atmos Amp
Monitor Audio in-ceiling speakers and sub.
Associated cabling
Let me play with some figures and see what falls out.
How easy can you get cables through the ceiling to speakers and projector?
Thx gary..
Is there possibly a separate box i can put inline before the projector that’ll take three hdmi inputs and then output 1 x hdmi and 1 x optical (hdmi to proj. Optical to amp) preferably one that i dont need to switch between the three inputs, it just prioritises one of the inputs? Hope that makes sense.
an av receiver you’d have to keep changing to whichever input you were using
justin220 said:
It's not really normal for a projector to output optical.
It tends to be an AV receiver which takes all the inputs (Sky, PS4) and outputs the picture to a projector, and the sound to the speakers
No, not normal but something i’d like though i’m guessing the projector would have to process the sound from the hdmi to optical and thats a fair bit of tech thats quite quality sensitive.It tends to be an AV receiver which takes all the inputs (Sky, PS4) and outputs the picture to a projector, and the sound to the speakers
Is there possibly a separate box i can put inline before the projector that’ll take three hdmi inputs and then output 1 x hdmi and 1 x optical (hdmi to proj. Optical to amp) preferably one that i dont need to switch between the three inputs, it just prioritises one of the inputs? Hope that makes sense.
an av receiver you’d have to keep changing to whichever input you were using
Go second hand for sure. Source the kit through ebay or avforums. Loads of people have to have the latest and greatest so you can get stuff a couple of years old for good money.
For your budget you will struggle to buy new and get a decent result.
There are a few of us on here who are in the industry. Feel free to run any kit choices through us. I for one would be happy to help you develop a wiring scheme.
For your budget you will struggle to buy new and get a decent result.
There are a few of us on here who are in the industry. Feel free to run any kit choices through us. I for one would be happy to help you develop a wiring scheme.
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