Question about 3D plates - legal? UK based
Question about 3D plates - legal? UK based
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Joeycookson

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8 posts

87 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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Hello so I bought some 4D plates the other week, just put them on my car today. You may not like them but I do so that’s all that matters!

My question was, there are no flags or country on the plate at all... is that still ok?

Also there is no BSAU 145D printed on the front of the plate.

BSAU 145d is printed on the back of the plates and as I’ve fitted a plate holder they’re easy to remove and see the back of them but obviously that isn’t how the law works.. any advice, the company I bought them off are certain they’re road legal.

Below is the only picture I’ve got for now. You can see they’re very plain which is what I wanted but now I’m worrying about potentially failing an MOT or getting pulled over.



Edited by Joeycookson on Tuesday 14th April 12:45

craigjm

21,457 posts

229 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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They are not 3D numberplates. They are 4D numberplates. There is no requirement for a country flag on the plates.

Joeycookson

Original Poster:

8 posts

87 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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craigjm said:
They are not 3D numberplates. They are 4D numberplates. There is no requirement for a country flag on the plates.
Sorry i was supposed to write 4D. Thanks for the correction! How about the BSAU issue?

craigjm

21,457 posts

229 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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The BS number must be on the front of the numberplate and clearly visible for it to be legal

Davel

8,982 posts

287 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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I didn't know that.

Just thought that sizing and spacing were the important issues.

The_Nugget

746 posts

86 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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craigjm said:
They are not 3D numberplates. They are 4D numberplates. There is no requirement for a country flag on the plates.
Are they? What is the 4th dimension?

Joeycookson

Original Poster:

8 posts

87 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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craigjm said:
They are not 3D numberplates. They are 4D numberplates. There is no requirement for a country flag on the plates.
Although i appreciate you correcting me. They're actually 3D plates. 4D is one of the companies and the company name that prints them. They're still just 3D.

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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craigjm said:
The BS number must be on the front of the numberplate and clearly visible for it to be legal
And also the name of the supplier


impprobable

47 posts

87 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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The above is not true. Its only for cars made after the new legislation . So cars made before that date dont need the british standard or the address of the plate maker (whenever they were made).

Joeycookson

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87 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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impprobable said:
The above is not true. Its only for cars made after the new legislation . So cars made before that date dont need the british standard or the address of the plate maker (whenever they were made).
Mine is a 66 plate... Am I ok without the BSAU markings? And are you sure?

craigjm

21,457 posts

229 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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Joeycookson said:
craigjm said:
They are not 3D numberplates. They are 4D numberplates. There is no requirement for a country flag on the plates.
Although i appreciate you correcting me. They're actually 3D plates. 4D is one of the companies and the company name that prints them. They're still just 3D.
They are known generically as 4D numberplates because 3D plates have existed for years and look like this and they had to differentiate them in some way


craigjm

21,457 posts

229 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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Joeycookson said:
impprobable said:
The above is not true. Its only for cars made after the new legislation . So cars made before that date dont need the british standard or the address of the plate maker (whenever they were made).
Mine is a 66 plate... Am I ok without the BSAU markings? And are you sure?
The “new” legislation they refer to is 2001

zzrman

670 posts

218 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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If they are properly spaced then I can't imagine you'll be pulled over because the BS number and supplier aren't shown. I guess you have the original plates. All the MOT people will want is for you to Blu Tack the old plates on for the MOT - or hold them on with rubber bands - my MOT station told me they have to be attached to the car - nothing says they have to be screwed on.

craigjm

21,457 posts

229 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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zzrman said:
If they are properly spaced then I can't imagine you'll be pulled over because the BS number and supplier aren't shown. I guess you have the original plates. All the MOT people will want is for you to Blu Tack the old plates on for the MOT - or hold them on with rubber bands - my MOT station told me they have to be attached to the car - nothing says they have to be screwed on.
Absolutely. It may not even fail an MOT either depending on how diligent the inspector is but safe side would be to have a standard set as you suggest.

Bottom line is the style is not illegal as long as it has the marking and is spaced correctly

RizzoTheRat

28,896 posts

221 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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The_Nugget said:
Are they? What is the 4th dimension?
Time



paintman

7,860 posts

219 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-...
Section 0.1. Registration plates.

And:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...

Edited by paintman on Tuesday 14th April 14:38

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

208 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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craigjm said:
Absolutely. It may not even fail an MOT either depending on how diligent the inspector is but safe side would be to have a standard set as you suggest.

Bottom line is the style is not illegal as long as it has the marking and is spaced correctly
Still see cars with MOTs with EML and Emission control light showing on the dash (comment in advisory notes), which is a failure as I understand it.


With plates most testers are looking for plates that scream issues, its more likely to get you pulled by plod and a chat and maybe a fine.

rigga

8,806 posts

230 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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Mate had these on his mine, weirdly car park cameras didn't seem to recognize the plate, and others have said the same.

craigjm

21,457 posts

229 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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rigga said:
Mate had these on his mine, weirdly car park cameras didn't seem to recognize the plate, and others have said the same.
I think that maybe down to how stacked you have them. I have seen companies that will male they as a standard being 3mm and then you add what you want in multiples of 3mm. The first set I saw on the road were about 9mm deep... crazy

Unbusy

934 posts

126 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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The_Nugget said:
Are they? What is the 4th dimension?
I think you need those special glasses to be able to enjoy them at their best. smile