1977 3.0 Carrera
Discussion
Hi all,
I am looking to make a move into an older 911 but don't know too much about anything prior to the 993 era. I saw this car at Hexagon - https://www.hexagonclassics.com/car/porsche-911-3-... - and really like it.
My question is whether this model is perceived by the cognoscenti as acceptable. I ask not because I care what people think, but because my knowledge is limited of this era and I would like to avoid buying a car and finding out later that was the one dud 911 model in the last 40 years.
I know that Hexagon are expensive, but within reason that is OK as long as the car is up to a matching standard.
All views welcome.
Thanks
I am looking to make a move into an older 911 but don't know too much about anything prior to the 993 era. I saw this car at Hexagon - https://www.hexagonclassics.com/car/porsche-911-3-... - and really like it.
My question is whether this model is perceived by the cognoscenti as acceptable. I ask not because I care what people think, but because my knowledge is limited of this era and I would like to avoid buying a car and finding out later that was the one dud 911 model in the last 40 years.
I know that Hexagon are expensive, but within reason that is OK as long as the car is up to a matching standard.
All views welcome.
Thanks
There will be people who know much more than me, but the 3.0 Carrera is a nice car. I had an SC in exactly that colour which came after So definitely nothing to turn your nose up at! Of course, it has to be in good condition, especially for that money. But if it has no rust, strong engine (no broken headstuds etc), good (ideally fresh) suspension, it would be lovely. Is it value for money. I'll let the more market focussed folks comment on that.
Mind you perhaps they are up for a deal!
Lovely car.
Bert
ETA: and a good gearbox. Mine needed a box refresh.
Mind you perhaps they are up for a deal!
Lovely car.
Bert
ETA: and a good gearbox. Mine needed a box refresh.
At that price 
I think you’ve really got to want a 3 litre Carrera.
I don’t think they were especially great cars - although good examples are probably fairly rare.
But, £80k should buy an exceptional low mileage G50 3.2, 964 or 993, all of which are, I would have thought, far better aircooled ‘911s’, to use and enjoy.
In addition, it would be a brave buyer who goes into the market at current ‘asking’ prices - surely we are going to witness a significant pricing correction in the coming months?
I think you’ve really got to want a 3 litre Carrera.I don’t think they were especially great cars - although good examples are probably fairly rare.
But, £80k should buy an exceptional low mileage G50 3.2, 964 or 993, all of which are, I would have thought, far better aircooled ‘911s’, to use and enjoy.
In addition, it would be a brave buyer who goes into the market at current ‘asking’ prices - surely we are going to witness a significant pricing correction in the coming months?
The 3.0 litre engine was a much more reliable item than the 2.7 ... but this is very strong money and in a classic "marmite" colour ...
I'm not aware of the 3.0 being particularly collectable, despite their low numbers ... they were only manufactured for two years ... so spares could be an issue.
The 911SC then ran for five years before the 3.2 arrived. My preference for a real quality old school Porsche that could be an every day driver, would be the best 3.2 I could lay my hands on ... which would be a very very nice one at this price point and particularly in this market.
I chose a 1989 3.2 Jubilee which celebrated the first 250,000 911's for it's low numbers (30 Coupe's in the UK)and G50 gearbox .. I also love the metallic blue colour. Mine has done a little over 90k miles, I paid £45k for it and priced in £5k for properly sorting out some corrosion ... and it ended up costing me £6k which I was very happy with.
I also own a '73 2.4S ... condition is everything !
I'm not aware of the 3.0 being particularly collectable, despite their low numbers ... they were only manufactured for two years ... so spares could be an issue.
The 911SC then ran for five years before the 3.2 arrived. My preference for a real quality old school Porsche that could be an every day driver, would be the best 3.2 I could lay my hands on ... which would be a very very nice one at this price point and particularly in this market.
I chose a 1989 3.2 Jubilee which celebrated the first 250,000 911's for it's low numbers (30 Coupe's in the UK)and G50 gearbox .. I also love the metallic blue colour. Mine has done a little over 90k miles, I paid £45k for it and priced in £5k for properly sorting out some corrosion ... and it ended up costing me £6k which I was very happy with.
I also own a '73 2.4S ... condition is everything !
Been a 911ophile since the ‘80s and had a new one every three years since - so two of most generations, plus several classic models alongside.
Agree with above. The 3.0 Carrera wasn’t particularly notable, unless you have some specific nostalgic affinity to that model.
Still retain much fondness for the 3.2 Carrera, and the G50 models are worth the extra.
The 993 was much improved, and I had three, but prefer the classic shape of the 3.2 and 964.
When buying ‘collectibles’ I’ve always had a weakness for low mileage.
Agree with above. The 3.0 Carrera wasn’t particularly notable, unless you have some specific nostalgic affinity to that model.
Still retain much fondness for the 3.2 Carrera, and the G50 models are worth the extra.
The 993 was much improved, and I had three, but prefer the classic shape of the 3.2 and 964.
When buying ‘collectibles’ I’ve always had a weakness for low mileage.
Lovely car and a bit rare, I've owned also one a LHD also with the rear wing and turbo seats etc and the titanium? side window surrounds, looked great that stuf.
here 2 old scanned in pictures of my 1976 3.0 carrera long time ago.
mine had also some special front spoiler and green leather.
in those days no internet and the guy I bought it from sold it as a normal 911, then I went to some classic 911 specialist garage and they told me that it was a good one and not that many made.
I sold it one day (it was not for sale) when some working guy in a van stopped (I had the car on that moment outside to wash the car)
and asked me, do you want to sell it? I said, depends on what you offer...he named a price (which was a few thousend more then I paid a few months before) and I agreed (way to fast) so he bought it
here 2 old scanned in pictures of my 1976 3.0 carrera long time ago.
mine had also some special front spoiler and green leather.
in those days no internet and the guy I bought it from sold it as a normal 911, then I went to some classic 911 specialist garage and they told me that it was a good one and not that many made.
I sold it one day (it was not for sale) when some working guy in a van stopped (I had the car on that moment outside to wash the car)
and asked me, do you want to sell it? I said, depends on what you offer...he named a price (which was a few thousend more then I paid a few months before) and I agreed (way to fast) so he bought it
It doesn't look expensive if original paint/panel/no rust car as she's being advertised. I think that colour combo just amazing and period too.
Restored cars very different proposition to an original 1977 timewarp 3.o Carrera as above. I'd have someone like 911 Virgin check the car out first. They have a similar 3.o Carrera at the mo in white I think? Not being advertised in storage with them but worth a chat to Tom or Henry they know a lot about this particular model and its a v.rare car. If buying I'd ask them to at least cast their eyes over her before buying. Hexagon shouldn't have an issue getting the car over to them.
Restored cars very different proposition to an original 1977 timewarp 3.o Carrera as above. I'd have someone like 911 Virgin check the car out first. They have a similar 3.o Carrera at the mo in white I think? Not being advertised in storage with them but worth a chat to Tom or Henry they know a lot about this particular model and its a v.rare car. If buying I'd ask them to at least cast their eyes over her before buying. Hexagon shouldn't have an issue getting the car over to them.
When I saw this I thought it was the one Williams Crawford had for sale until recently. Can't be too many original examples in this colour combination. But on revisiting the video it appears to be a different car. If I recall correctly the asking price was similar. Should get s good deal on that as a cash buyer
https://youtu.be/KiD5ABcSwoc
https://youtu.be/KiD5ABcSwoc
I was chatting to someone who knows an awful lot more about lets say pre 80’s Porsche’s than I ever will recently. He’s got a few different cars himself and said he reckons the 74-77 Carrera’s are some of the most under rated cars Porsche has made. Obviously they don’t compare to the pre 73 cars on looks but he thought as a driver these were great cars.
Hi everyone,
Thanks for the feedback.
Yes, there is always a newer or cheaper car, but I'm after something original and period. I will do some hunting around and see what else is available. I don't mind paying for a quality product, but I do mind paying for something that looks like a quality product but is not underneath.
I love the colour combo btw. Funny, as if you had shown me that 20 years ago I would have been horrified. Fashions change I guess. I'll be after an avocado bathroom suite next!
Thanks for the feedback.
Yes, there is always a newer or cheaper car, but I'm after something original and period. I will do some hunting around and see what else is available. I don't mind paying for a quality product, but I do mind paying for something that looks like a quality product but is not underneath.
I love the colour combo btw. Funny, as if you had shown me that 20 years ago I would have been horrified. Fashions change I guess. I'll be after an avocado bathroom suite next!
^^^ lovely BB.
Advert doesn't say she's an original unrestored car and sort of unreasonable for anything from 70s to be unless the car has not been driven and only lived in a museum. Looked closer and she looks v.nice.
This price point is so intriguing as there are so many air cooled (and other amazing marques) you can buy for this sort of money. Its a very nice budget for an old 911, 328, 550m,599,430,360 CS, GT3 almost anything old and special. Whatever you buy should be one of the best cars out there and if nice this 3.o would be up there at the top of my wish list but interesting to see others like this.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Advert doesn't say she's an original unrestored car and sort of unreasonable for anything from 70s to be unless the car has not been driven and only lived in a museum. Looked closer and she looks v.nice.
This price point is so intriguing as there are so many air cooled (and other amazing marques) you can buy for this sort of money. Its a very nice budget for an old 911, 328, 550m,599,430,360 CS, GT3 almost anything old and special. Whatever you buy should be one of the best cars out there and if nice this 3.o would be up there at the top of my wish list but interesting to see others like this.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Cheib said:
I was chatting to someone who knows an awful lot more about lets say pre 80’s Porsche’s than I ever will recently. He’s got a few different cars himself and said he reckons the 74-77 Carrera’s are some of the most under rated cars Porsche has made. Obviously they don’t compare to the pre 73 cars on looks but he thought as a driver these were great cars.
a plus thing of the 76-77 cars, more body protection zink/galvanised.also the carrera 3.0 has almost the same specs as the carrera 2.7 , at the time I thought, the Carrera 3.0 is the more civilised 2.7 more road sport, a bit like the European 964 RS (say Carerra 2.7) and the American 964 RS compare (say Carrera 3.0)
Its a lovely classic and a good oldie, I guess more reliable and les expensive to maintain as some other old sport cars.
ofcourse a 964 is better, more grown up?, but also more weight, still good though (I owned one as well, 964 in RS look, but with a 3.8 RS engine which came out a totalled 3.8 RS racecar)
but if you like your classic, then such older Carrera 3.0 is the way to go.
Would be worth subscribing to Readly app. Total 911 back issues and all it's bookazine are available to read. They test the 3.0 a number of times and have done buyers guide. I believe they need the headstuds checking otherwise expensive strip down.
If your not looking for originality maybe a nice backdate?
https://www.dmhistorics.com/sales/1980-porsche-911...
If your not looking for originality maybe a nice backdate?
https://www.dmhistorics.com/sales/1980-porsche-911...
Look at this beauty just gone up for sale today. Bet she sell in less than a week. If buying air cooled at the mo i'd walk past everything and buy this and I have never been the biggest fan of a targa. All about finding a good example and look at Chris at CG report on her. If you're looking for an air cooled this is the sort of car you should buy and they never come up for sale like this usually condition wise. Buy with eyes closed 
http://www.911virgin.com/porscheforsale/1424/3.2Ca...
http://www.911virgin.com/porscheforsale/1424/3.2Ca...
What is the drive like in a Targa of this vintage? I’d always understood them to be the poor relation to the ‘regular’ 911, but I suppose if the point is that it’s a car for enjoying at moderate speeds then it won’t matter. I’d only use a car like that for cruising around so I guess if the dynamics are not as sharp, that’s more than offset by the wind in the hair etc
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