The Truth about Traveller Crime, Ch4
The Truth about Traveller Crime, Ch4
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SlimJim16v

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7,534 posts

166 months

Wednesday 15th April 2020
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Dispatches, 9pm Thursday, ch4.
Could be interesting.

Brads67

3,199 posts

121 months

Wednesday 15th April 2020
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Not from Channel 4 it won't be.

It'll be how they are persecuted for nothing really.

AdamIndy

1,661 posts

127 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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Thanks for the reminder. Saw it advertised but since forgot about it. Now set to record.

Wacky Racer

40,666 posts

270 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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Ask Thwaites in Blackburn about this.

tr7v8

7,552 posts

251 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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Brads67 said:
Not from Channel 4 it won't be.

It'll be how they are persecuted for nothing really.
This, it will hardly be an objective view will it!

Mariosbt

2,452 posts

89 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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program on CH4 at 9.00 tonight. Hopefully this will highlight some of the stuff these people get up to i.e. painting your Grans roof for £3K not to mention the thefts. The elderly in particular need to know what these people will do to take your money. One of the worst I heard was a couple knocked on an old guys door and offered to rebuild his chimney. He agreed on a price of £800... quite reasonable you might think. They wrapped his chimney in brick wallpaper FFS ! F#cking vermin ‘Do as you likeys’. furious

Edited by Mariosbt on Thursday 16th April 20:07

SimonTheSailor

12,918 posts

251 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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Utter scum of the highest order.

No morals whatsoever.

Ultra Sound Guy

29,309 posts

217 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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Looks like Channel 4 have taken their velvet gloves off for a change!
Not painting the thieving scum in a good light at all, thank god!

Mariosbt

2,452 posts

89 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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Ultra Sound Guy said:
Looks like Channel 4 have taken their velvet gloves off for a change!
Not painting the thieving scum in a good light at all, thank god!
Not much hope if the police don’t have the balls or resources to deal with the f#ckers. The solution would be to get the Army on the site. One there in the red T shirt had a baseball bat while talking to the Police officer! I didn’t realise they were into sport.

sooty61

741 posts

194 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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It does support the notion they are pretty much untouchable though.

Red 5

1,093 posts

203 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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I was inclined to watch this. But I didn’t!

I might at some point, but I know I’ll feel physically sick at the sight, or sound of them!
It makes me sad that this land is blighted by such a ‘vibrant and traditional way of life’ frown

If this had been a documentary about new laws and regulations, designed curtail their activities, I’d have swallowed a little bit of sick and watched it.

They aren’t a separate ethnic group at all. They are a criminal fraternity with a free hand to operate as they wish, almost unchallenged.


Should I watch it, or will it just p*ss me off?

Andy 308GTB

3,017 posts

244 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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Red 5 said:
I was inclined to watch this. But I didn’t!

I might at some point, but I know I’ll feel physically sick at the sight, or sound of them!
It makes me sad that this land is blighted by such a ‘vibrant and traditional way of life’ frown

If this had been a documentary about new laws and regulations, designed curtail their activities, I’d have swallowed a little bit of sick and watched it.

They aren’t a separate ethnic group at all. They are a criminal fraternity with a free hand to operate as they wish, almost unchallenged.


Should I watch it, or will it just p*ss me off?
Exactly this. I didn't watch it because I knew it would simply wind me up.

kuro

1,630 posts

142 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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Ultra Sound Guy said:
Looks like Channel 4 have taken their velvet gloves off for a change!
Not painting the thieving scum in a good light at all, thank god!
I had an idea it wasn't going to be singing their praises when I read some defensive comments from members of the traveling community who must have had a preview. I'll be interested to hear how they are going to explain away some of the stuff shown in this programme.

Edited by kuro on Thursday 16th April 23:03

SlimJim16v

Original Poster:

7,534 posts

166 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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It basically backed up what a lot of people already know. Also that the police are toothless.
I liked that the blackmailer's caravan was found mysteriously burnt down.

Mezzanine

10,580 posts

242 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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The programme certainly didn’t hide away from the many consistent arguments around the subject.

They tried to quantify whether crime figures were unusually high around traveller sites but using figures from only one mile radius around sites. Not exactly helpful as most sites are usually more than a mile away from the mainstream population.

Also going on personal experience, a lot of minor crimes, more specifically anti-social behaviour, would just go unreported due to how normal it is to see it.

I found it interesting when Paddy mentioned how drugs among the young travellers had dramatically changed behaviour within their own community - would have been interesting to dig into that a bit more.

There also seemed to be a bit of a divide within their community, with a certain section being uncontrollable even within their own camps and bringing disrepute to this whole site...I was picturing travellers sitting in their vans moaning about the bloody travellers that had turned up next door and were causing havoc!

It didn’t annoy me as much as I thought but essentially nothing is likely to change for the better anytime soon. I am near one of the areas specifically mentioned in the programme - it’s a long-standing and sore subject around here for sure.

kuro

1,630 posts

142 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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kuro said:
Ultra Sound Guy said:
Looks like Channel 4 have taken their velvet gloves off for a change!
Not painting the thieving scum in a good light at all, thank god!
I had an idea it wasn't going to be singing their praises when I read some defensive comments from members of the traveling community who must have had a preview. I'll be interested to hear how they are going to explain away some of the stuff shown in this programme.

Edited by kuro on Thursday 16th April 23:03
Just went on twitter and it's lit up with cries of racism. Not one of these people is saying there may actually be a problem.

Red 5

1,093 posts

203 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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People just dislike them, due to the treatment they’ve received.


Their human slavery, destruction of property and lives, theft/robbery/deception, planning law rape goes largely unchecked.

The quantities of waste, filth and excrement they leave behind them is sub human.
Councils have to close off these illegal ‘rest stops’ due to bio hazards!

They do it because they can, but also because they actually hate everyone that’s not one of them.


Edited by topsey.mod on Saturday 18th April 09:08

SlimJim16v

Original Poster:

7,534 posts

166 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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Also blown up on Facebook. The perpetually offended on behalf of someone else, have gone nuts about how racist it is. I bet they'd crap their pants if they bumped into a real life traveller.

The official Traveller organisations have already got statements up in response.

I also found out they have their own acronym, GRT, just like a real minority.

Red 5

1,093 posts

203 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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SlimJim16v said:
Also blown up on Facebook. The perpetually offended on behalf of someone else, have gone nuts about how racist it is. I bet they'd crap their pants if they bumped into a real life traveller.

The official Traveller organisations have already got statements up in response.

I also found out they have their own acronym, GRT, just like a real minority.
Indeed!

Police advice is for the public to never approach them!
This is because of the risk of physical harm to you.
Is this advice ‘racist’ too?

bunchofkeys

1,267 posts

91 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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https://www.kentlive.news/news/kent-news/kent-coro...

FFS, some councilor(s) in Canterbury, really do need a kick up the arse, for encouraging "them" to stay. Even if it is temporary.

This is about half a mile up the road from me, but there are some really nice houses up that way too. I can see the Old Gate Inn (pub), will probably have a break in, as it's right by the park and ride, and is also closed.
Thankfully I'm renting, so will be out as soon as the st hits the fan; which it will.

Oh and there is construction work going on at the school. I expect st to go missing from the too.
Can councilor be held responsible, for their deluded decisions?

Edited by bunchofkeys on Friday 17th April 06:42