OMAD discussion and argument settle
OMAD discussion and argument settle
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anonymous-user

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83 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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A mate and I were musing over all the current fad diets in the fitness industry and strted to discuss thee OMAN principle.

Basically its one meal a day in a nutshell where said person eats one meal!!

General research says its a nightmare etc etc.

SO the argument as it were related to over eating at this time....

Say joe bloggs normally needs 2000 kcal a day for their BMR

If Joe consumes less than 2000k in that OMAN window then initially they will lose weight due to calorie reduction...but can someone answer the following?

1- Say Joe pigs out in his meal and gorges on 2500kcal will he gain weight over time or will the body only be able to prcess a given amount and the rest just dumped out and therefore either stay at the same weight or lose?

2- Ignoring the importance of this meal a day to get a good balance of nutrients could joe eat whatever he wanted with abandon and still get the benefit of weight loss?

  • Just to add its a hypothetical discussion and I personally am not interested in dieting nor need to lose weight - its just more of wanting to understand how a body reacts in a given timeframe of eating

Chicken_Satay

2,517 posts

233 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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lord trumpton said:
Say joe bloggs normally needs 2000 kcal a day for their BMR

If Joe consumes less than 2000k in that OMAN window then initially they will lose weight due to calorie reduction...but can someone answer the following?

1- Say Joe pigs out in his meal and gorges on 2500kcal will he gain weight over time or will the body only be able to prcess a given amount and the rest just dumped out and therefore either stay at the same weight or lose?

2- Ignoring the importance of this meal a day to get a good balance of nutrients could joe eat whatever he wanted with abandon and still get the benefit of weight loss?

1. It's a very basic equation isn't it? Burn more calories than you put in. If "Joe" normally needs 2000kcal a day and "pigs out" on one meal at 2500kcal per day then he's going to be up 500kcal at the end of the day meaning his weight will increase.

2. Joe can eat whatever he wants, when he wants, so long as it is less than the usual 2000kcal per day e.g. if he's consistently eating 1500kcal per day then he's clearly going to lose weight over time.

Seems fairly straightforward to me. The only difficulty with any sort of diet is having to put up with the inevitable hunger you will experience and that requires a lot of will power.


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

83 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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Chicken_Satay said:
lord trumpton said:
Say joe bloggs normally needs 2000 kcal a day for their BMR

If Joe consumes less than 2000k in that OMAN window then initially they will lose weight due to calorie reduction...but can someone answer the following?

1- Say Joe pigs out in his meal and gorges on 2500kcal will he gain weight over time or will the body only be able to prcess a given amount and the rest just dumped out and therefore either stay at the same weight or lose?

2- Ignoring the importance of this meal a day to get a good balance of nutrients could joe eat whatever he wanted with abandon and still get the benefit of weight loss?

1. It's a very basic equation isn't it? Burn more calories than you put in. If "Joe" normally needs 2000kcal a day and "pigs out" on one meal at 2500kcal per day then he's going to be up 500kcal at the end of the day meaning his weight will increase.

2. Joe can eat whatever he wants, when he wants, so long as it is less than the usual 2000kcal per day e.g. if he's consistently eating 1500kcal per day then he's clearly going to lose weight over time.

Seems fairly straightforward to me. The only difficulty with any sort of diet is having to put up with the inevitable hunger you will experience and that requires a lot of will power.
I totally agree with the logic but wondered if for example the body has a limit on the amount of calories it can consume and process (and therefore store) in one sitting as it were.

So if these 2500 are consumed in a feast in one go then its too much past a certain body ability threshold and they kind of 'pass though' as it were.

Admittedly as I type this its seems nonsensical but I'm no dietician!



BlackG7R

724 posts

210 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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From what I've read OMAD & Intermittent fasting is not really about reducing calories, it is all about reducing insulin levels.

Every time you eat you spike up your insulin levels, and your body does not burn fat whilst there is insulin in the system.

By going 16 hrs or more without food, you can get insulin down to levels where the body will start burning stored fat.

Google Dr. Jason Fung.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iatPAjf5I_Y




Edited by BlackG7R on Friday 2nd October 20:52

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

253 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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Just go low carb low protein high fat. It’s self regulatory in that it’s almost impossible to gorge fat on its own. ie without accompanying carbs and protein the mouthfeel overwhelms you. That’s what most actors etc used to be on, before peds became prevalent everywhere.