Pressure washer advice - do I need onboard detergent?
Pressure washer advice - do I need onboard detergent?
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Dr Nookie

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243 posts

221 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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Just about to buy a Nilfisk and can see some more pricey ones come with onboard detergent. Is this of any real use?

It's for a bit of car washing, patio and brickwork and comes with a foam bottle attachment etc. so what would I use the onboard for? A detergent to help with the paving, or whack some autowash in there rather than filling up 2 buckets?

And really is it worth getting the p series over the e? The new P180 looks terrific but doesn't seem too suited to car washing as the click and connect stuff isn't compatible and I wanted to give that a bash. Is that range overkill for my needs (once a month 2 car wash and occasional patio work).

Cheers,

D.



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Summit_Detailing

2,319 posts

214 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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I've had various pressure washers over the years and I've never used the detergent bottle on any that had one..

I'm not familiar with the newest Nilfisk models but if one looks more suitable to car washing then buy that. Pretty much any PW from £75> are adept at patio cleaning.

Try a citrus based cleaner/degreaser from the supermarket as a pre-spray on the patio before using the PW...has worked worked well for me on numerous occasions over the years.

Happy cleaning!

Cheers,

Chris

Dr Nookie

Original Poster:

243 posts

221 months

Thursday 16th April 2020
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Summit_Detailing said:
I've had various pressure washers over the years and I've never used the detergent bottle on any that had one..

I'm not familiar with the newest Nilfisk models but if one looks more suitable to car washing then buy that. Pretty much any PW from £75> are adept at patio cleaning.

Try a citrus based cleaner/degreaser from the supermarket as a pre-spray on the patio before using the PW...has worked worked well for me on numerous occasions over the years.

Happy cleaning!

Cheers,

Chris
Cheers, that's about what I thought.

curvature

529 posts

95 months

Friday 17th April 2020
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Sodium Hyperchlorite is what you want for the patio - Industrial bleach so be careful!

Dr Nookie

Original Poster:

243 posts

221 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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It's bloody infuriating that on paper the Karcher's have everything I want (variable pressure, onboard detergent) but I can't justify based on the poor reviews (and my mate got one that lasted 2 months and 2 washes).

Does anyone ever use variable pressure or do you just stand further back :-)?

Summit_Detailing

2,319 posts

214 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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Dr Nookie said:
It's bloody infuriating that on paper the Karcher's have everything I want (variable pressure, onboard detergent) but I can't justify based on the poor reviews (and my mate got one that lasted 2 months and 2 washes).

Does anyone ever use variable pressure or do you just stand further back :-)?
A good friend has a K7 full control - I asked him if he's ever changed the setting on the lance - Nope just left on max!

Sniffs of marketing team getting involved with product design IMO.

Cheers,

Chris

Dr Nookie

Original Poster:

243 posts

221 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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Summit_Detailing said:
A good friend has a K7 full control - I asked him if he's ever changed the setting on the lance - Nope just left on max!

Sniffs of marketing team getting involved with product design IMO.

Cheers,

Chris
Agreed. Well the Nilfisk is on it's way now so don't need to think about that any more...

Cheers,

David.

Meeten-5dulx

3,189 posts

77 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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Bought a k4 full control at the weekend.
Made cleaning the block work much easier than my puny k2!

Set in max for the floor, but I'd change for the car. Or stand back some....

£175 from Wickes, and 15pc off with a code. Seemed reasonable.

Motor is water cooled so hopefully better than the air cooled ones. Time will tell...

Dan_1981

17,884 posts

220 months

Monday 20th April 2020
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I've got a k4 full control too.

Had it a.couplw of years, came with free patio detergent.

Couldn't get it to work via the dispenser.

Variable pressure? Seems to default to max regardless of twiddling the Lance.

SeeFive

8,353 posts

254 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2020
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I do use the variable pressure on the lance on my Nilfisk.

Two reasons to lower the pressure. 1), soft tops / canvas covers on boats. 2), rinsing off TW ceramic wash - I want to leave the ceramic behind and not blast it away while it is wet on the car. There could be a third I guess if I had a car with dodgy rusty areas of paint, I wouldn’t want to hit it with maximum pressure.

Other than that, it is always at the max, and I always wish for more on green walls and patios smile

Dr Nookie

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243 posts

221 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2020
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SeeFive said:
I do use the variable pressure on the lance on my Nilfisk.

Two reasons to lower the pressure. 1), soft tops / canvas covers on boats. 2), rinsing off TW ceramic wash - I want to leave the ceramic behind and not blast it away while it is wet on the car. There could be a third I guess if I had a car with dodgy rusty areas of paint, I wouldn’t want to hit it with maximum pressure.

Other than that, it is always at the max, and I always wish for more on green walls and patios smile
When you say you lower the pressure, do you mean by twisting the nozzle rather then using an onboard control to reduce the pressure the machine is running at?

SeeFive

8,353 posts

254 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2020
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Dr Nookie said:
SeeFive said:
I do use the variable pressure on the lance on my Nilfisk.

Two reasons to lower the pressure. 1), soft tops / canvas covers on boats. 2), rinsing off TW ceramic wash - I want to leave the ceramic behind and not blast it away while it is wet on the car. There could be a third I guess if I had a car with dodgy rusty areas of paint, I wouldn’t want to hit it with maximum pressure.

Other than that, it is always at the max, and I always wish for more on green walls and patios smile
When you say you lower the pressure, do you mean by twisting the nozzle rather then using an onboard control to reduce the pressure the machine is running at?
Yes indeed, on the lance itself. I have no option on the machine.

Chris32345

2,139 posts

83 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2020
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SeeFive said:
Yes indeed, on the lance itself. I have no option on the machine.
You just have a dodgy Lance mines very noticeable between Min and max on the vario lance

SeeFive

8,353 posts

254 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2020
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Chris32345 said:
SeeFive said:
Yes indeed, on the lance itself. I have no option on the machine.
You just have a dodgy Lance mines very noticeable between Min and max on the vario lance
My post may have been misinterpreted. It is actually very effective at reducing pressure where needed, as mentioned I use it in a couple of situations and it performs fine. Should have bought a higher pressure machine for the brickwork though.

Medic-one

3,134 posts

224 months

Sunday 17th May 2020
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Sorry to hijack your thread but as it's a similar topic i thought use this instead of start a new one...


I've just bought my first pressure washer, some Nilfisk E150.2 number, but the online shop I bought it off was out of the detergent ("nilfisk car combi cleaner") that goes with it.

I think I read somewhere online something about 'be carefull not to use any detergent in your pressure washer as it might damage it', so just wondering what everyone else does.

Can you just buy car wash detergent/foam from any car shop/halfords and use that in your pressure washer ? Anything to look out for or avoid ?

Dan_1981

17,884 posts

220 months

Sunday 17th May 2020
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Recently started using the polar range from autoglym all applied via power washer via a snowgun.

Have been very impressed, snowfoam, followed by shampoo followed by a polish that's also sprayed on via power washer.

Dry by hand and all done. The beading on the polish is insanely good. Been very impressed.

Medic-one

3,134 posts

224 months

Monday 25th May 2020
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Dan_1981 said:
Recently started using the polar range from autoglym all applied via power washer via a snowgun.

Have been very impressed, snowfoam, followed by shampoo followed by a polish that's also sprayed on via power washer.

Dry by hand and all done. The beading on the polish is insanely good. Been very impressed.
Is there a specific type of cloth you'd recommend to dry it off afterwards ?

I've got my new pressure washer, but i need to go buy some other items, like snowfoam, shampoo's and all that stuff, together with drying and cleaning cloths, but there are so many different types of everything I have no idea what to get...

I might have to google 'car washing for dummies' online and see what it comes up with... boxedin

Summit_Detailing

2,319 posts

214 months

Monday 25th May 2020
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Medic-one said:
Is there a specific type of cloth you'd recommend to dry it off afterwards ?

I've got my new pressure washer, but i need to go buy some other items, like snowfoam, shampoo's and all that stuff, together with drying and cleaning cloths, but there are so many different types of everything I have no idea what to get...

I might have to google 'car washing for dummies' online and see what it comes up with... boxedin
https://www.exceldetailingsupplies.co.uk/product-page/klin-korea-medium-evo

Cheers,

Chris

tog

4,834 posts

249 months

Monday 11th January 2021
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Dr Nookie said:
Agreed. Well the Nilfisk is on it's way now so don't need to think about that any more...

Cheers,

David.
I'm also looking at the P180 - how are you getting on with it Dr Nookie?

Dr Nookie

Original Poster:

243 posts

221 months

Wednesday 20th January 2021
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Have to say it's a great bit of kit.

I ended up with patio cleaner set and the high and variable pressure nozzles.
Seems v well made, the onboard hose is good quality and should last ages and it's powerful enough to blow your trousers off (if that's on your requirements list).

Don't want to tempt fate but I'm confident it'll keep going to some time so highly recommended.
I went for the E160 in the end I think - so the one without onboard detergent.


Edited by Dr Nookie on Wednesday 20th January 12:31