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Moving your arse across the seat a bit and getting your head and upper body over a bit is one thing ...but I do find it amusing when Im following someone through some bends and they are really hanging off the bike with hardly any lean angle on and im keeping pace with them on a Harley Davidson 
On the track I think it was mid 70s when riders like Kenny Roberts started really using body positioning and fitting the first knee reinforcements to leathers, by mid eighties its commonplace.
Good explanation on the why and science behind why it helps
https://www.ridinginthezone.com/body-position-tips...

On the track I think it was mid 70s when riders like Kenny Roberts started really using body positioning and fitting the first knee reinforcements to leathers, by mid eighties its commonplace.
Good explanation on the why and science behind why it helps
https://www.ridinginthezone.com/body-position-tips...
bogie said:
Moving your arse across the seat a bit and getting your head and upper body over a bit is one thing ...but I do find it amusing when Im following someone through some bends and they are really hanging off the bike with hardly any lean angle on and im keeping pace with them on a Harley Davidson 
Sometimes I think people are just practicing moving around, rather than aiming for maximum speed.
Hanging off is essential as this bloke demonstrates
https://twitter.com/jimnotbob/status/1250489765922...
https://twitter.com/jimnotbob/status/1250489765922...
Andybow said:
Hanging off is essential as this bloke demonstrates
https://twitter.com/jimnotbob/status/1250489765922...
LOLhttps://twitter.com/jimnotbob/status/1250489765922...
Andybow said:
Hanging off is essential as this bloke demonstrates
https://twitter.com/jimnotbob/status/1250489765922...
As ridiculous as that is, and it is really is ridiculous, it does show that putting your weight to one side can keep the bike more upright when going round a corner. The bike is pretty much vertical the whole way round. https://twitter.com/jimnotbob/status/1250489765922...
That doesn’t excuse the fact that, he’s not got a clue how to hang off, or that there’s absolutely no need at all to hang off for that corner.
bogie said:
Andybow said:
Hanging off is essential as this bloke demonstrates
https://twitter.com/jimnotbob/status/1250489765922...
LOLhttps://twitter.com/jimnotbob/status/1250489765922...

On the road I think too many people worry too much about hanging off. Even on track days there appears to be a belief that you "have" to hang off. As has been mentioned, the whole concept of hanging off only started in the 80's and really only applied to the top racers, to help them get that extra hundredth of a second.
Mike Hailwood didn't feel the need and, I suggest, that as none of us are not even half as good as Mike The Bike, we don't have the need to hang off either.

Mike Hailwood didn't feel the need and, I suggest, that as none of us are not even half as good as Mike The Bike, we don't have the need to hang off either.

I had a session with the Ron Haslam racing school a couple of years back and my instructor was insistent that you "hang off" the bike for a few reasons.
The bike is more upright meaning the bike is more stable through the corner.
A little more brake pressure can be applied without locking up.
Theres more room for error on applying the throttle coming out of the corner.
Agreed there probably isn't much point in hanging off on the street because for it too make a difference youd be riding recklessly fast.
The bike is more upright meaning the bike is more stable through the corner.
A little more brake pressure can be applied without locking up.
Theres more room for error on applying the throttle coming out of the corner.
Agreed there probably isn't much point in hanging off on the street because for it too make a difference youd be riding recklessly fast.
Biker's Nemesis said:
black-k1 said:
Speak for yourself.
black-k1 said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
black-k1 said:
Speak for yourself.
t is overAs for style. Not sure if people can click this link? This is a friend and I going into a corner at Snett. It was my first time on the L8 with the OEM tyres and to be fair even for me this style looks terrible. I dont know (partly due to an old mx injury) 'hang off'. When pushing I get off the bike and lean into the corner but I will never be an elbow down kinda guy. My mate here is 10 years younger than me and looks great in pictures however I am easily 5-10 seconds quicker round Snett etc than him (I'm not saying I'm great in stating this)
https://www.instagram.com/p/B91RiC8HZGu/?igshid=i8...
trickywoo said:
King Kenny wasn’t it?
Kenny Roberts.
Before then the grip / power balance didn’t make it worthwhile.
Kenny Roberts.
Before then the grip / power balance didn’t make it worthwhile.

Jarno Saarinen was one of, if not the first to stick his knee out/down on tarmac mostly due to his previous career racing on ice.
For fast riders getting a knee down is like grabbing the girlfriends arse during sex, just something that happens naturally when you're going for it...
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