Buyer wants money back
Buyer wants money back
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Jay29

Original Poster:

3 posts

77 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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So on Sunday I sold a car to a gentleman that I did not know was CAT C. we spoke normally and he agreed to take the car sold as seen. Paid in cash. Two days later he sends me this text: “Bet you knew the car was a cat c you fking prick. Il be reporting the mot station for passing it. And il be coming for you!”

I was so nervous and scared that I just said he could have his money back and I would have the car as I didn’t know and didn’t want anyone to be cheated. He said he spent a further 240 quid on new tires. Said he wanted that back as well. When I said I didn’t have the money, he called me a “fking con man”. I honestly did not know the car had been written off. So much so that I even offered his money back. So what do you think I should do? I’m really upset and didn’t sleep well last night. Any help would be appreciated.

journeymanpro

921 posts

106 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Where did you buy it? Legally its on him If he didn't hpi and you were genuinely unaware.

Muzzer79

13,021 posts

216 months

stevemcs

10,268 posts

122 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Makes no difference to the mot test centre they just test them cat c is allowed to be on the road. Have hpi’d it yourself to see if it has a marker against it ? That’s what I would be doing first.

What kind of person hpi’s a car after they have purchased it ? At worse you take the car back but he would be out of luck for the tyres, you do need to hpi it yourself though.

Tyre Tread

10,676 posts

245 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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stevemcs said:
Makes no difference to the mot test centre they just test them cat c is allowed to be on the road. Have hpi’d it yourself to see if it has a marker against it ? That’s what I would be doing first.

What kind of person hpi’s a car after they have purchased it ? At worse you take the car back but he would be out of luck for the tyres, you do need to hpi it yourself though.
What kind of person HPIs a car after they sell it? LOL.
As long as you acted in good faith and didn't knowingly misrepresent the car I'd suggest that I'd be keeping his money and if he felt aggrieved enough and had sufficient evidence then to seek legal recourse.

Monkeylegend

29,134 posts

260 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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When did you buy the car OP. Was it not advertised as a Cat C when you bought it, or was it damaged it during ownership?

Monkeylegend

29,134 posts

260 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Tyre Tread said:
What kind of person HPIs a car after they sell it? LOL.
As long as you acted in good faith and didn't knowingly misrepresent the car I'd suggest that I'd be keeping his money and if he felt aggrieved enough and had sufficient evidence then to seek legal recourse.
I suspect if it was you who had bought it you would think a bit differently.

Jay29

Original Poster:

3 posts

77 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Right. It’s a bit of a situation. My mum divorced. And her partner racked up a few grand in credit card debt in her name and fked off back to his country. When my mum managed to get a hold of him, he said she could sell the cars he had left and pay the debt back. I took the car for MOT, valet and service. Put it on eBay. I was clear on eBay I was selling on behalf of someone else, and that I had limited information on the vehicle. I had no information on service history etc. honestly bloody nightmare

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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No nightmare, he didn’t HPI it, you didn’t say it was HPI clear, Cat C can be MOT’d so no idea what he is on about there.

Tell him to do one.

jwilco

335 posts

77 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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You're certainly within your rights to say the car was sold honestly - you didn't advertise the car was HPI clear and even if you did, he should have checked. They also sound like a total dcik so as above, they can do one.

HustleRussell

26,475 posts

189 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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He's threatened you. Tell him to cease all contact with you and inform the police.

Have you even HPI checked the car yourself yet to verify whether it is in fact a Cat C?

MrGTI6

3,304 posts

159 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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You weren't selling the car dishonestly and the buyer has to take some level of responsibility here given that it was a private sale. Furthermore, the message you received from him could be perceived as a threat.

As others have said, he might be trying it on. To save you paying for an HPI check, let me know the reg and I'll check for you if it's a write-off or not.

Tyre Tread

10,676 posts

245 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Monkeylegend said:
Tyre Tread said:
What kind of person HPIs a car after they sell it? LOL.
As long as you acted in good faith and didn't knowingly misrepresent the car I'd suggest that I'd be keeping his money and if he felt aggrieved enough and had sufficient evidence then to seek legal recourse.
I suspect if it was you who had bought it you would think a bit differently.
Your suspicion is ill founded.

HustleRussell

26,475 posts

189 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Tyre Tread said:
What kind of person HPIs a car after they sell it?
What kind of person HPIs a car after they buy it?

Jay29

Original Poster:

3 posts

77 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Thank you for offering, I had already done one and found out he is right, the car had been written off previously. I sent him the following message
“I found someone else interested in the car. They're willing to pay the same price even it being a cat c. I'll have to let them know if the car is available until 12. My offer to refund the money will expire then. I've let my conscience guide me on this, and I offered you the money back before I knew you had fitted new tires on. As a family we have been mislead by someone we trusted, so I know what feeling you might have, but I want to assure you it was never my intention to take advantage of you and your family. It is not in my nature to do so.”
He hasn’t answered. The deadline has passed.
Thank you for the comments. Sorry for bringing this topic back to the forum.

StuTheGrouch

5,918 posts

191 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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I thought category C cars had a mention of that status on the log book

TCX

1,976 posts

84 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Private sale worse things happen,caveat emptor,not your problem

SmoothCriminal

5,938 posts

228 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Monkeylegend said:
Tyre Tread said:
What kind of person HPIs a car after they sell it? LOL.
As long as you acted in good faith and didn't knowingly misrepresent the car I'd suggest that I'd be keeping his money and if he felt aggrieved enough and had sufficient evidence then to seek legal recourse.
I suspect if it was you who had bought it you would think a bit differently.
I imagine he would have hpi'd it before he handed over any cash.

V8fan

8,485 posts

297 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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There's no mention of the value. I've bought a few 'snotters' in the past and if it's only a few hundred quid, it makes little difference. If you're paying thousands for a car, that's different.

My folks had an old V reg Ford Fiesta in 2010 that had been repaired. It didn't say 'cat C' on the V5c but it did say something like 'vehicle has received substantial repair.' Probably after a VIC check. Even though the wing was the wrong shade of blue, and the wrong grill fitted, I reckoned it was a good car. They paid £1050 for it and ran it for over 5 years before it basically rusted away.

There is an easy way to check the cat status of a car (even though other threads will tell you not all write offs are listed). Run the registration through Autotrader as if you're listing it for sale, and the status will come up in the particulars. You don't have to complete the listing of course. smile

Mexman

2,442 posts

113 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Just forward his messages on to your Mums partner, let him deal with it.