in-season development - stop it comletely?
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just a discussion point but to reduce cost and simplify the sport for the spectators could in season development of the current car be stopped?
so 20XX season runs while solely developing the 20XX+1 Car, this can be tested between seasons then locked in as the car rolls out at the first race. reliability updates would need to be approved.
I'm not sure the average fan cares that this race runs a high downforce package, that race runs low downforce or that merc have brought a slighly different shaped piece of carbon.
Would be very interesting to see how a car would cope with the needs of say monaco and silverstone with only setup changes and how the teams would approch balancing the car's performance across the season. Could give the minnows a real chance of targetting a specific track for a win.
I dont want this btw, i enjoy seeing the constant tweaking and refinement.
so 20XX season runs while solely developing the 20XX+1 Car, this can be tested between seasons then locked in as the car rolls out at the first race. reliability updates would need to be approved.
I'm not sure the average fan cares that this race runs a high downforce package, that race runs low downforce or that merc have brought a slighly different shaped piece of carbon.
Would be very interesting to see how a car would cope with the needs of say monaco and silverstone with only setup changes and how the teams would approch balancing the car's performance across the season. Could give the minnows a real chance of targetting a specific track for a win.
I dont want this btw, i enjoy seeing the constant tweaking and refinement.
The problem with this is that if you start with a duff car then you're lumbered with that for the whole season. I forget the season but there was a year recently where Red Bull started off with a turd of a car yet by the summer were in contention for the championship. Same back in 09 (I think) when Brawn nailed it early on but others caught up to a degree that made them winning the titles less of a forgone conclusion that it was at the beginning. It's this that makes the sport intriguing.
There's only so much trackside fettling you can do.
There's only so much trackside fettling you can do.
Current plans are to try to start the 20 season July time, with spectator free races, as we know.
I understand that it’s been agreed that the car the teams start with will be fixed in terms of mechanical development until the end of ‘21.
They’re aiming to get the teams back to work early June so they’ll have a month to finalise all mechanical development then it’ll be an 18 month aero race, though its still possible that some engine changes, looking towards ‘22, may be permitted.
As I’ve been told by someone who should know. No more than that, make of it what you will but, if it’s so, we’ll see how significant no mechanical development is over this year and next.
I understand that it’s been agreed that the car the teams start with will be fixed in terms of mechanical development until the end of ‘21.
They’re aiming to get the teams back to work early June so they’ll have a month to finalise all mechanical development then it’ll be an 18 month aero race, though its still possible that some engine changes, looking towards ‘22, may be permitted.
As I’ve been told by someone who should know. No more than that, make of it what you will but, if it’s so, we’ll see how significant no mechanical development is over this year and next.
StevieBee said:
The problem with this is that if you start with a duff car then you're lumbered with that for the whole season. I forget the season but there was a year recently where Red Bull started off with a turd of a car yet by the summer were in contention for the championship. Same back in 09 (I think) when Brawn nailed it early on but others caught up to a degree that made them winning the titles less of a forgone conclusion that it was at the beginning. It's this that makes the sport intriguing.
There's only so much trackside fettling you can do.
They'd have to be more careful of this and would be better prepared if they knew they were going to be stuck with their package for a year. I wouldn't forsee teams turning up on day 1 with dog.There's only so much trackside fettling you can do.
Currently they can take risks, sacrifice some early performance knowing they can tweak and refine them as you say with RBR.
andburg said:
StevieBee said:
The problem with this is that if you start with a duff car then you're lumbered with that for the whole season. I forget the season but there was a year recently where Red Bull started off with a turd of a car yet by the summer were in contention for the championship. Same back in 09 (I think) when Brawn nailed it early on but others caught up to a degree that made them winning the titles less of a forgone conclusion that it was at the beginning. It's this that makes the sport intriguing.
There's only so much trackside fettling you can do.
They'd have to be more careful of this and would be better prepared if they knew they were going to be stuck with their package for a year. I wouldn't forsee teams turning up on day 1 with dog.There's only so much trackside fettling you can do.
Currently they can take risks, sacrifice some early performance knowing they can tweak and refine them as you say with RBR.
It would work if you move the regs to more of a spec' series where the range of design options is narrower; lots of common parts and the like. This would reduce costs and from a pure racing point of view, may well make for better 'sport'. But there are no shortage of these types of formulae and F1 is at its core, a prototype based formula so spec' it too much and it's no longer F1.
Know what you're getting at but can't really see how it could work.
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