Covid-19. The origins
Poll: Covid-19. The origins
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Bristol ave fag said:
OK il post this here as well.
23/04/2020 number of corona deaths so far as on wiki US 48,000. Spain 22,000. Italy 25,000. Uk 18,000. / China 4,632....?.... Japan 2,408.??
Where did this virus start china ? it dose not make sense by the numbers!
Not everyone is as scrupulously honest as one might like.23/04/2020 number of corona deaths so far as on wiki US 48,000. Spain 22,000. Italy 25,000. Uk 18,000. / China 4,632....?.... Japan 2,408.??
Where did this virus start china ? it dose not make sense by the numbers!
Manufactured or man-made? Perhaps not. However, there was a lab nearby to Wuhan that was studying new coronavirus that was present in bats. The safety protocols were lax enough that US inspectors were sending communications back to their government voicing their concerns. I don't think it's a huge leap to think there could be credence to the suggestion that a breach at the lab lead to the local bat population getting the virus before it was passed to humans.
But as far as the virus engineered to impact Western people and damage our economy, as some conspiracy theorists have suggested and deliberately released, I think that's a leap.
I also wouldn't believe anything the Chinese government says on the matter. Aside from the possibility that they are massively under-reporting their deaths, they also blamed Italy for the virus and the US military.
But as far as the virus engineered to impact Western people and damage our economy, as some conspiracy theorists have suggested and deliberately released, I think that's a leap.
I also wouldn't believe anything the Chinese government says on the matter. Aside from the possibility that they are massively under-reporting their deaths, they also blamed Italy for the virus and the US military.
jimmyjimjim said:
This needs another option - "Accidentally released from a bio-research lab staffed by incompetents, probably located in Jiangxia, Wuhan, Hubei, China, at 30°22?26.3?N 114°16?05.0?E"
This would be only lab link I would believe. Re made an deliberately released....not a chance as it would cause a war if it was really true and not just a trade one Gecko1978 said:
jimmyjimjim said:
This needs another option - "Accidentally released from a bio-research lab staffed by incompetents, probably located in Jiangxia, Wuhan, Hubei, China, at 30°22?26.3?N 114°16?05.0?E"
This would be only lab link I would believe. Re made an deliberately released....not a chance as it would cause a war if it was really true and not just a trade one 
Either natural and unfortunate transmission via animal contact, or natural and escaped via lab incompetence.
No way is it a deliberate bio-weapon, it's too rubbish for one thing, and too unpredictable to release on your own population.
glazbagun said:
No way is it a deliberate bio-weapon, it's too rubbish for one thing,
Whenever this question arises, people say this. Yet as we sit here it is threatening enough that the western world is, apparently voluntarily, destroying it's economy. A good weapon is not one that kills, it is one that debilitates the enemy by taking out those who would otherwise be combatant, looking after their wounded teammates. SARS-CoV- 2 spreads silently, and kills enough to debilitate entire economies. It represents an excellent weapon. Having said that, I don't believe it is one, ther is no real evidence to support that claim. Alan535 said:
There has always been outbreaks of strange diseases that wiped out local populations the problem now is ease of travel and large numbers of people living very close together.
It gives one pause to think what the native American cultures must have went through- decades of wars with technologically superior foes and novel diseases you've never encountered running rampant through your society at the same time!Bristol ave fag said:
Well yes it does make sense but only in the unthinkable if you believe that china manufactured it and sent it around the rest of the world.
you've got to be crazy.
Not really. The poll questions are a bit illogical.you've got to be crazy.
Its perfectly possible its man made, probable even. Was it released deliberatley? Much less likely id say.
But these 2 options are effectively rolled into one answer when in reality, they are a long way apart.
monkfish1 said:
Bristol ave fag said:
Well yes it does make sense but only in the unthinkable if you believe that china manufactured it and sent it around the rest of the world.
you've got to be crazy.
Not really. The poll questions are a bit illogical.you've got to be crazy.
Its perfectly possible its man made, probable even. Was it released deliberatley? Much less likely id say.
But these 2 options are effectively rolled into one answer when in reality, they are a long way apart.
Edited by Bristol ave fag on Thursday 23 April 21:18
China's numbers are crazy
1.4b people, 4,000 deaths. CFR of 0.6%. 66,000 cases? (Have I done that right?) And they only locked wuhan down? This thing would have been all over China before they even realised they had a problem
Thing is, I'm stumped. I dont believe they are hiding 1m+ bodies. And I dont think they gave their citizens the vaccine and used it as a bio weapon (if humans are even involved I'd go with a cock up). So how do you explain their low numbers? Young population? Median of 38 vs Italy's 44 and our 40.5 so cant see that being it .
1.4b people, 4,000 deaths. CFR of 0.6%. 66,000 cases? (Have I done that right?) And they only locked wuhan down? This thing would have been all over China before they even realised they had a problem
Thing is, I'm stumped. I dont believe they are hiding 1m+ bodies. And I dont think they gave their citizens the vaccine and used it as a bio weapon (if humans are even involved I'd go with a cock up). So how do you explain their low numbers? Young population? Median of 38 vs Italy's 44 and our 40.5 so cant see that being it .
Whether lab or natural, it is highly likely that it could have been avoided and the blame lies with China.
They have a lot to answer for.
It is a shame that after this is over we will continue to use China as the manufacturing centre of the world and aid China in it's ambition of being the number one super power.
God help us.
As for it having started outside of China, give me a break.
They have a lot to answer for.
It is a shame that after this is over we will continue to use China as the manufacturing centre of the world and aid China in it's ambition of being the number one super power.
God help us.
As for it having started outside of China, give me a break.
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