Brake pads ... old chestnut ..

[ChrisW500]

I have a 99 Chimaera 400 with a 5 stud conversion. Like most I am doing all those little jobs now. Non use is showing its presence on the disks :-(

Clearly the front disks and callipers are not standard so what I am after is the correct / best road pads for the fronts:



and ..



The rears look standard but any help please on the pads and even the donor car type...



and ..



TIA


Chris

[SILICONEKID 357HP]

The problem with the 4 pot track calipers you cant get standard road pads .
I've got the ds2500 and dont like them .
I've been after quality road pads but not found any .

[Oldred_V8S]

SILICONEKID 357HP said:

The problem with the 4 pot track calipers you cant get standard road pads .
I've got the ds2500 and dont like them .
I've been after quality road pads but not found any .

What was the issue with the DS2500's?

[ChrisW500]

Any clues guys ... are the rears as shown Ford Focus ST?

[Zener]

Rear pads are from any Ford Sierra fitted with rear disc brakes inc 85-94 Granada and Escort Cosworth . if they come with wear indicator wire just cut this off

[ChrisW500]

Many thanks

[SILICONEKID 357HP]

Oldred_V8S said:

What was the issue with the DS2500's?

They need heat to work ,if you come off the motorway or do light braking they don't work .
Wish I had kept the Granada cossy kit with standard good quality ferrodo road pads . They work from cold and you cant over heat them on the road .

[The AJP Griff]

Pagid blue pads. Been through a few different kinds over the years and these are excellent from cold as well as when hot/resistance to fade etc.

[SILICONEKID 357HP]

Which pagid pads ? There are a few types ..

[SILICONEKID 357HP]

Does anyone know which brakes I have ?

[mk1fan]

Looking at the comparison charts on EBC their OEM Ultimax2 pads have the same cold performance rating the Bluestuff and Redstuff pads.

As for the type of brakes you have. If they are AP Racing ones then they have their part number printed on the inside edge of the caliper between the mounting bolts. The face next to the disc 'bell'. You may have to remove them to see.

If they are TVR AP Racing ones then, I think, if you have 4 bolts holding the caliper halves together then they are '6600' calipers - those fitted to the Tam, T350 and Sag.

I'm not aware of any 'OEM' material pads available for the 6600 - although I haven't spoken to AP. The only options I am aware of are performance oriented ones - such as the DS2500, Bluestuff and Redstuff compounds. I don't know if Carbon Lorraine or Hawk still make pads for them.

I have used EBC Yellowstuff in the Tam and they were dreadful 'cold' (as reflected by EBC in their ratings) but improved demonstrably after a trackday. This improvement remained although I regularly do trackdays.

Edited by mk1fan on Thursday 30th April 16:39

[mk1fan]

SILICONEKID 357HP said:

Wish I had kept the Granada cossy kit with standard good quality ferrodo road pads . They work from cold and you cant over heat them on the road .

Fiesta ST 150 calipers and carriers are readily available at a fraction of the cost of the fabled 887/888's but are essentially the same. A set of Cosworth 283mm Discs turned down to 279mm. A bolt on swap. Huge range of OEM pads available.

[SILICONEKID 357HP]

AP got back to me and now I'm even more confused .

There are two sizes to choose from





I'm even more confused.

[magpies]

inner and outer radii. Radius from centre to inner edge of swept pad land and radius to outer edge.

[SILICONEKID 357HP]

I wonder if I have the wrong pads ,they dont cover the whole disc .

[Classic Chim]

SILICONEKID 357HP said:

I wonder if I have the wrong pads ,they dont cover the whole disc .

They rarely cover the whole disc though. Why don’t you talk to Brummie. An expert on brakes. Send him a pad if necessary but at least talk to him. He can get a pad with more metal flakes to suit a road car more, just tell him what they are like what you want send a used pad and he can match it or find the correct pad for your application, it’s guessing otherwise. You can see how much metal is in a pad which determines how fast it heats up just by looking at it shimmer in the light Daz. You might have glazed yours, try rubbing them down on a bit in a flat surface. Overheated then maybe so hardened off god know but all this is it this is it that. Get a pro on the job spend your money and get brakes that work this is bks if something a miss. It’s hardly stopping any weight, you have pads that are to hard not enough Metal in them or fked through overheating

[SILICONEKID 357HP]

Thanks Alun ,what pads to you have and are they road pads ?

How do I get in contact with Brummie ?

Edited by SILICONEKID 357HP on Saturday 2nd May 21:41

[QBee]

How often do you drive the car, Daz?
Weekly, monthly, less often than that?
Could it just be that the pads are glazing and the disks rusting from too little use?

[griffdude]

I’ve been using Brummies’ brakes for years, they’re very good. Fine for road use & brilliant on track. Best thing to do is to pick the phone up Daz.

https://www.clbraking.co.uk/contact

[SILICONEKID 357HP]

Thanks just mailed them .