RE: Britcar teams offers drive
RE: Britcar teams offers drive
Wednesday 15th June 2005

Britcar team offers drive

Hawthorns cuts fees for the right racer


Hawthorns' BMW Z3 takes off
Hawthorns' BMW Z3 takes off
Want to race but can't afford to buy a car? Hawthorns Motorsport has cut the price of a Britcar drive. Thirty per cent of the costs will now be picked up by the team's sponsors, reducing the price from £8,995 to £6,295.

There are two seats available in addition to the car's two regular drivers, making four in all. The seats will be offered subject to status, to those who are interested in buying the drive, have the necessary skill levels and the budget, together with physical fitness to support six hours of racing each, plus testing and qualifying.

History

Hawthorns Motorsport ran a Z3-based M Coupe GT3 car in the 2005 British GT series from the beginning of the race season until June 2005 when the prospect of huge potential costs to make the car a GT3 contender loomed. The team then chose to transfer to the less financially demanding EERC Britcar series, which the team said operates a much fairer race car classification system for competitors with sensible or limited budgets.

The car's origins are in 6/12/24hr endurance racing, and will be entered in the Britcar 24-hour Willhire Race. Having successfully entered and completed the 2002 Nürburgring 24 Hours, the 2002 and the 2003 Bathurst 24-hour races, the team reckoned car is highly suited for the job.

The team is fully supported by its preparation team partners, Moore Racing. With their help and advice, the car will be fully prepared for the event. Moore Racing has years of expertise in endurance racing, and Hawthorns said it expects a high level of reliability and therefore a fantastic value for money racing experience for the drivers involved.

Fees and insurance

An accident damage deposit payment of £2,500 is payable in advance and will be held against any damaged caused by the individual driver, and are fully re-fundable in the event that the driver has no accident damage claims. Hawthorns requires all drivers to sign a full indemnity document with personal guarantees or in combination/instead of, supply an insurance cover policy/letter to cover up to the full cost of totally re-building the car. That's some £35,000. A group policy is a cheaper option if all drivers agree.

The non-refundable fee is an all inclusive figure, apart from insurance and VAT.

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woof

Original Poster:

8,456 posts

294 months

Wednesday 15th June 2005
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sounds expensive to me

I got offered a top GT drive for Combe for £5k
ok - 1hr race as opposed to a 24hr race but still





d_drinks

1,426 posts

286 months

Wednesday 15th June 2005
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woof said:

sounds expensive to me

I got offered a top GT drive for Combe for £5k
ok - 1hr race as opposed to a 24hr race but still




Are you serious?? So for an additional £1,295 you're getting another 5hrs racing, plus testing and qualifying. and that's expensive???? This deal works out to £1,049.16 per hour without the insurance deposit or £1465,83 with. Even adding on the VAT and the insurance it's £1,722.35 per hour of racing. OK not cheap but you were offered 1hr for 5k 3 times the price per hour!!! OMG man are you mad??? expensive he says.........

And I don't even work for the team and would say it's a good deal.

Edited to add: Nice 930 Turbo by the way not really a fan of Porsche but that looks nice.

>> Edited by d_drinks on Wednesday 15th June 13:43

gibo993

963 posts

282 months

Wednesday 15th June 2005
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Z3 !! Don't be rude its a ZM Coupe

griff2be

5,103 posts

284 months

Wednesday 15th June 2005
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Actually its a BMW M Coupe, if you want to be really pedantic.

Anyway - Mr Littman - we've not met, but I hired your Caterham Roadsport A from Gerry Taylor in 2003 to get some signatures for my Nat A prior to racing in the Tuscans. Are you still racing?

Regards

Andy

Racing Rod

1,353 posts

284 months

Wednesday 15th June 2005
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woof said:

sounds expensive to me

I got offered a top GT drive for Combe for £5k
ok - 1hr race as opposed to a 24hr race but still




and very 5k=1hr or 6.295k=6hrs plus testing of approx 2hrs, SO!!!!!! which is the MUCH better deal

I know I'm a touch bias but really, I have to wonder at the thought processes sometimes.

Just noticed, D Drinks beat me to it, thanks mate

>> Edited by Racing Rod on Wednesday 15th June 18:28

d_drinks

1,426 posts

286 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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Racing Rod said:


Just noticed, D Drinks beat me to it, thanks mate

>> Edited by Racing Rod on Wednesday 15th June 18:28


No worries, good luck with finding the right drivers who agree that the price is a very fair one. Though not enough luck to see you up with our Marcos !

Racing Rod

1,353 posts

284 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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d_drinks said:

Racing Rod said:


Just noticed, D Drinks beat me to it, thanks mate

>> Edited by Racing Rod on Wednesday 15th June 18:28



No worries, good luck with finding the right drivers who agree that the price is a very fair one. Though not enough luck to see you up with our Marcos !



Don't worry, we would have to fit a turbo to get on pace with you guy's, we are in class 2 at present but I don't think we will be there buy the end of the Brands test day, we should be where we belong, class 3

Racing Rod

1,353 posts

284 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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d_drinks said:

Racing Rod said:


Just noticed, D Drinks beat me to it, thanks mate

>> Edited by Racing Rod on Wednesday 15th June 18:28



No worries, good luck with finding the right drivers who agree that the price is a very fair one. Though not enough luck to see you up with our Marcos !

scuffham

20,887 posts

291 months

Saturday 18th June 2005
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Racing Rod said:


d_drinks said:



Racing Rod said:


Just noticed, D Drinks beat me to it, thanks mate

>> Edited by Racing Rod on Wednesday 15th June 18:28





No worries, good luck with finding the right drivers who agree that the price is a very fair one. Though not enough luck to see you up with our Marcos !





Don't worry, we would have to fit a turbo to get on pace with you guy's, we are in class 2 at present but I don't think we will be there buy the end of the Brands test day, we should be where we belong, class 3




Naaaaa..

GT cup class cars are class 1

>> Edited by scuffham on Saturday 18th June 15:24

john75

5,303 posts

264 months

Saturday 25th June 2005
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Hi Scuffham,

Did not see you at Brands yesterday ?

scuffham

20,887 posts

291 months

Sunday 26th June 2005
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john75 said:
Hi Scuffham,

Did not see you at Brands yesterday ?


was there???

DNF'ed on Saturday (siezed gearbox)
12th on Sunday....