What are the top 10 kit-car makers in Britain?
What are the top 10 kit-car makers in Britain?
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vlc

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1,014 posts

269 months

Wednesday 15th June 2005
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...of course, if youve never driven one, it dont matter, as nor have i, so i just go by how good look overall :)

btw- this list excludes those makers engaged in motorsport, as i'm just asking about normal road-going cars, not barely-legal road cars like ultima etc.

my top 10 -
1.Phantom, 2.Chesil, 3.Fisher, 4.Sylvia, 5.GTM, 6.Quantum, 7.Marlin, 8.Vemac, 9.Ginneta, 10.Dakar Cars.

ps- i've excluded companies that just remake other peoples classic designs, eg- tiger, dax, caterham, westfield, hawk, as i moreover admire original design than merely copying lotus sevens an ac cobra's :(

lanciachris

3,357 posts

265 months

Wednesday 15th June 2005
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Ultima
Fisher
Ginetta
Marcos
Locost - mostly for bringing 7 style motoring within easy reach of the masses
Tiger
Sylva
Chesil
Westfield
Dax

>> Edited by lanciachris on Wednesday 15th June 15:29

wacky racer

40,693 posts

271 months

Wednesday 15th June 2005
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Both Caterham and Westfield's set ups are VERY impressive, as is Ultima's, MOST of the rest are more like small cottage industries....Westfield can be added to the list as they do have original designs as well as their seven clone.......

tiga84

5,531 posts

255 months

Wednesday 15th June 2005
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mmmmm Chesil.

grahambell

2,720 posts

299 months

Wednesday 15th June 2005
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Vemac don't make kitcars, only fully built production cars that are at present only sold in Japan.

simonrockman

7,080 posts

279 months

Wednesday 15th June 2005
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tiga84 said:
mmmmm Chesil.

I hated the one I drove.

twin40s

154 posts

279 months

Wednesday 15th June 2005
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What are the top 10 kit-car makers in Britain?

hmmm,

Pretty much the top 10 british car manufacturers these days!

cymtriks

4,561 posts

269 months

Wednesday 15th June 2005
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Caterham

No doubt about that one. Very good car. Good engineering underneath too. Unlike most spaceframes this one needs no apologies.

The next place is:
Ultima

Followed by:
GTM (Libra)

Now it gets harder. I've no idea what the Phantom looks like under the skin but it looks very nice on the outside. The Marlin 5Exi looks good too and then there is Dax so that gives us:

Phantom
Marlin
Dax

Shred-Head

45 posts

258 months

Thursday 16th June 2005
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mungo said:
1. CATERHAM.

It's not a copy, it's the real thing.



Spot On.

supercat

88 posts

270 months

Thursday 16th June 2005
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When I read the thread title I thought you meant in terms of sales. In which case with 5 cars on the road, I think Phantom would be somewhat further down the list! Anyone have any idea what a list of top 10 sellers would be?

barroom_spert

63 posts

253 months

Thursday 16th June 2005
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vlc said:

btw- this list excludes those makers engaged in motorsport, as i'm just asking about normal road-going cars, not barely-legal road cars like ultima etc.


Can you explane why Ultima is a barely legal road car?

VXwestie

36 posts

250 months

Thursday 16th June 2005
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Shred-Head said:

mungo said:
1. CATERHAM.

It's not a copy, it's the real thing.




Spot On.


yeh, if you want to pay over the odds just to say you 'have racing heritage'

Cateringvan!!

VXwestie

36 posts

250 months

Thursday 16th June 2005
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Ex-biker

1,315 posts

271 months

Thursday 16th June 2005
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Can we clarify the question?

Are you asking for the top 10 kit cars, or the top ten most profitable manufacturers?

IMO there are only about 3 - 4 companies that produce a well built car that is anyway comparable to a production tin box that are also prospering as a company:
Caterham
Westfield
GTM
Ultima

A few other companies produce a racer for the road, which is a good car etc, but without the same quality.

There are also a few companies that on the face of it look successful . . .

And others that are making good money with cars that could be better.

I'm sure many will either agree or disagree with my comments.

remal

25,077 posts

258 months

Thursday 16th June 2005
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mungo said:
1. CATERHAM.

It's not a copy, it's the real thing.



but who many owners build their caterhams? 1-2%

busa_rush

6,930 posts

275 months

Thursday 16th June 2005
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Shred-Head said:

mungo said:
1. CATERHAM.

It's not a copy, it's the real thing.




Spot On.


If you want a copy of a 30 year old car ! (Or however old the design is.) Give me a modern car designed my somebody who's still alive anytime . . .

xm5er

5,094 posts

272 months

Thursday 16th June 2005
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twin40s said:
What are the top 10 kit-car makers in Britain?

hmmm,

Pretty much the top 10 british car manufacturers these days!


Pos.
Manufacturer
Models made
Est units

per annum

1st
Robin Hood Sportscars
Lightweight, 2B Plus & SuperSpec
700

2nd
Caterham Cars
Seven & CSR
592

3rd
Westfield Sports Cars
SEi range & XTR range
450

4th
MK Sportscars
Indy
200

5th
Tiger Racing
Cat, Avon, R6, B6, Super Six, Z100 & ERA
175

6th
DJ Sportscars
Tojeiro, Rush & Rush M/C
150

7th
Luego Sportscars
Viento, Velocity & Locost
120

8th
Pilgrim Cars UK Ltd
Sumo & Speedster
100

9th
Fisher Sportscars UK
Fury & Menace
80

10th
GTM Cars
Libra & Spyder
70

Sorry about the format, c'n'p from www.totalkitcar.com

Personally I'm astonished that Robinhood are No1.

Shaun_E

748 posts

284 months

Friday 17th June 2005
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IIRC over half of all Caterhams are shipped as kits. The difference is that some of the more fiddly stuff is already done for you (wiring loom, fuel tank/pipes, etc.). A Caterham can be assembled in a few days - Caterham quote something like 70 hours. IMHO the reason that a Caterham is such a good kit is that the build quality of the finished car is far less variable than a less comprehensive kit. It's pretty difficult to bu99er up a Caterham build but of course its far less of a challenge than a kit where you have to source parts and even fabricate things. You pays your money and takes your choice. Buying a second hand Caterham is, in general, less risky than buying many other second hand kits as you can be fairly sure that it has been put together properly - Caterham actually do a post build check as part of the price of the kit.
I was a bit surprised to see Robin Hood at the top of the sales chart but then again it is probably the cheapest starter kit and therefore is attractive to people on a very tight budget. Having seen the owners club at Stoneleigh kit car show, they probably get nearly as large a turnout as the L7OC.

vlc

Original Poster:

1,014 posts

269 months

Saturday 25th June 2005
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wacky racer said:
..Westfield can be added to the list as they do have original designs as well as their seven clone.......
- err.. such as !!??
mungo said:
CATERHAM.
It's not a copy, it's the real thing.
er, i dont think Lotus would agree, or are you saying lotus copied their '7' from caterham !!!

barroom_spert said:

vlc said:
btw- this list excludes those makers engaged in motorsport, as i'm just asking about normal road-going cars, not barely-legal road cars like ultima etc.

Can you explane why Ultima is a barely legal road car?
yeh - coz some kitcars that are just fitted up to be road legal so they dont need a trailer pull, even tho theyre primarily track cars all along, an thus arent too practical about town etc for real world use.

Ex-biker said:
Can we clarify the question?
Are you asking for the top 10 kit cars, or the top ten most profitable manufacturers?
i was talking about most successfull as kit-car makers 'only' in terms of driver praise, public image, sales, the whole deal that makes impressions etc.

for eg- the mg-tf maybe a fewer seller than the porsche boxter, an less in handeling than a mazda-mx5, but its appeal, image, sales, an kudos, make it a top 10 car over mundane stuff like the diahatsu copen etc.

busa_rush

6,930 posts

275 months

Saturday 25th June 2005
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vlc said:

wacky racer said:
..Westfield can be added to the list as they do have original designs as well as their seven clone.......

- err.. such as !!??


XTR2 and XTR4 perhaps !