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WTJF is going on? More and more I'm seeing people write, and hearing people say, 'then' when they mean 'than'. As in "more then" "less then" etc.
The Midlands diseases of bought/brought and wander/wonder are bad enough, but this seems really stupid. Is it just learned behaviour or what?
The Midlands diseases of bought/brought and wander/wonder are bad enough, but this seems really stupid. Is it just learned behaviour or what?
slopes said:
I heard someone earlier refer to something as a learning kerb.
I'm starting to think people are just being lazy and can't be bothered to learn the correct phrase or pronunciation anymore.
I wonder whether it is more to do with how we learn language. If you think about it there are many set phrases we use that don’t make a lot of sense in themselves but we don’t worry about it because we know what the phrase means irrespective of the individual words. I'm starting to think people are just being lazy and can't be bothered to learn the correct phrase or pronunciation anymore.
As an example, when I grew up I misheard the phrase “damp squib” as “damp squid” and used it for many years before discovering my mistake. Although the latter makes no sense in isolation the former didn’t either as I wouldn’t have known what a squib is (I only found out when I heard the origin of the phrase).
There is a term for where people mishear words but replace them with an alternative that seems to make sense: eggcorn. Named after a woman who misheard acorn as eggcorn and used the later (as acorns are the same shape as eggs).
Esceptico said:
slopes said:
I heard someone earlier refer to something as a learning kerb.
I'm starting to think people are just being lazy and can't be bothered to learn the correct phrase or pronunciation anymore.
I wonder whether it is more to do with how we learn language. If you think about it there are many set phrases we use that don’t make a lot of sense in themselves but we don’t worry about it because we know what the phrase means irrespective of the individual words. I'm starting to think people are just being lazy and can't be bothered to learn the correct phrase or pronunciation anymore.
As an example, when I grew up I misheard the phrase “damp squib” as “damp squid” and used it for many years before discovering my mistake. Although the latter makes no sense in isolation the former didn’t either as I wouldn’t have known what a squib is (I only found out when I heard the origin of the phrase).
There is a term for where people mishear words but replace them with an alternative that seems to make sense: eggcorn. Named after a woman who misheard acorn as eggcorn and used the later (as acorns are the same shape as eggs).
Pothole said:
Esceptico said:
slopes said:
I heard someone earlier refer to something as a learning kerb.
I'm starting to think people are just being lazy and can't be bothered to learn the correct phrase or pronunciation anymore.
I wonder whether it is more to do with how we learn language. If you think about it there are many set phrases we use that don’t make a lot of sense in themselves but we don’t worry about it because we know what the phrase means irrespective of the individual words. I'm starting to think people are just being lazy and can't be bothered to learn the correct phrase or pronunciation anymore.
As an example, when I grew up I misheard the phrase “damp squib” as “damp squid” and used it for many years before discovering my mistake. Although the latter makes no sense in isolation the former didn’t either as I wouldn’t have known what a squib is (I only found out when I heard the origin of the phrase).
There is a term for where people mishear words but replace them with an alternative that seems to make sense: eggcorn. Named after a woman who misheard acorn as eggcorn and used the later (as acorns are the same shape as eggs).
slopes said:
I heard someone earlier refer to something as a learning kerb.
I'm starting to think people are just being lazy and can't be bothered to learn the correct phrase or pronunciation anymore.
My Mrs produces gems such as 'at the cold face' every now and again much to my amusement. If there is a phrase she will mangle it somehow. I'm starting to think people are just being lazy and can't be bothered to learn the correct phrase or pronunciation anymore.
Think my all time favourite is 'heighpff' in place of 'height'. Here this fairly regularly at work on building sites.
I’ve had a couple of acquaintances who would muddle some things up.
Otherwise we’ll educated though.
One mixed up wonky and crooked. He used to say ‘Wonkid’
He also swore blind, that the famous race horse that want missing, was called ‘Shergold’
He would get increasingly angry, as more people reacted with raised eyebrows.
Another chap had a Renault 5 Rio.
He insisted it was a Renaught Rye-O’
He actually delighted in telling people and the ensuing confusion, so HE could correct them!!!
I do think some of these are a little thicko, like East Angular.
The strange part for me though, is the unwillingness and bloody minded stubbornness to adjust their behaviour, in the face of so many people correcting them.
Is this a mixture of Asperger’s and Dyslexia?
Otherwise we’ll educated though.
One mixed up wonky and crooked. He used to say ‘Wonkid’
He also swore blind, that the famous race horse that want missing, was called ‘Shergold’
He would get increasingly angry, as more people reacted with raised eyebrows.
Another chap had a Renault 5 Rio.
He insisted it was a Renaught Rye-O’
He actually delighted in telling people and the ensuing confusion, so HE could correct them!!!
I do think some of these are a little thicko, like East Angular.
The strange part for me though, is the unwillingness and bloody minded stubbornness to adjust their behaviour, in the face of so many people correcting them.
Is this a mixture of Asperger’s and Dyslexia?
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