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I don’t usually pay attention to this kinda thing but this caught my eye as it’s been officially released by the government and the capabilities of the craft exceed anything that’s currently public.
What are your thoughts ?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/27/pent...
What are your thoughts ?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/27/pent...
WCZ said:
I don’t usually pay attention to this kinda thing but this caught my eye as it’s been officially released by the government and the capabilities of the craft exceed anything that’s currently public.
What are your thoughts ?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/27/pent...
Joe Rogan interviewed the pilot a while back.What are your thoughts ?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/27/pent...
https://youtu.be/Eco2s3-0zsQ
Interesting, especially to hear the disbelief in the pilots voices, who know better than anyone how things "should" behave.
I'm not one for the conspiracy theories but I find the Bob Lazar stuff fascinating, there is a Joe Rogan Podcast with him if you're interested.
It all seems very David Icke-ish at face value, he has a weird story to tell but then so do lots of people and it's very easy to laugh at it all but what got me about it is the body-language analysis vids.
There are some smart people on YouTube who break down the behavior of liars like Prince Andrew, Trump and the like. When studying Bob Lazar's interviews it turns out his body language is exactly that of someone speaking the truth, to a degree that would be impossible to fake.
Of course that doesn't mean it's not all complete nonsense, perhaps he's just firmly believes it all really happened.
I'm not one for the conspiracy theories but I find the Bob Lazar stuff fascinating, there is a Joe Rogan Podcast with him if you're interested.
It all seems very David Icke-ish at face value, he has a weird story to tell but then so do lots of people and it's very easy to laugh at it all but what got me about it is the body-language analysis vids.
There are some smart people on YouTube who break down the behavior of liars like Prince Andrew, Trump and the like. When studying Bob Lazar's interviews it turns out his body language is exactly that of someone speaking the truth, to a degree that would be impossible to fake.
Of course that doesn't mean it's not all complete nonsense, perhaps he's just firmly believes it all really happened.
Almost certainly not aliens.
Best to keep in mind two maxims: simple explanations are better than complex explanations and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Aliens, if they exist, meaning beings similar to us with advanced technology, language and culture, can’t break the laws of physics. Moving any macroscopic object like a spacecraft around the universe would take a lot of energy and a lot of time (excluding fantasy tech like warp drives that can only exist in Sci-fi).
If aliens had managed to overcome the almost impossible barrier of getting here why wouldn’t they get in touch when they arrive? And if they didn’t plan to get in touch (for whatever reason) and somehow managed to hide their existence...how could they be so stupid as to be caught on camera by Navy jets?
Much more likely to be a natural phenomenon or man made.
Best to keep in mind two maxims: simple explanations are better than complex explanations and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Aliens, if they exist, meaning beings similar to us with advanced technology, language and culture, can’t break the laws of physics. Moving any macroscopic object like a spacecraft around the universe would take a lot of energy and a lot of time (excluding fantasy tech like warp drives that can only exist in Sci-fi).
If aliens had managed to overcome the almost impossible barrier of getting here why wouldn’t they get in touch when they arrive? And if they didn’t plan to get in touch (for whatever reason) and somehow managed to hide their existence...how could they be so stupid as to be caught on camera by Navy jets?
Much more likely to be a natural phenomenon or man made.
kuro said:
WCZ said:
I don’t usually pay attention to this kinda thing but this caught my eye as it’s been officially released by the government and the capabilities of the craft exceed anything that’s currently public.
What are your thoughts ?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/27/pent...
Joe Rogan interviewed the pilot a while back.What are your thoughts ?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/27/pent...
https://youtu.be/Eco2s3-0zsQ
Honestly don't know what to make of it, when its reported by so many reliable people it has to be taken seriously surely?
Esceptico said:
Almost certainly not aliens.
Best to keep in mind two maxims: simple explanations are better than complex explanations and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Aliens, if they exist, meaning beings similar to us with advanced technology, language and culture, can’t break the laws of physics. Moving any macroscopic object like a spacecraft around the universe would take a lot of energy and a lot of time (excluding fantasy tech like warp drives that can only exist in Sci-fi).
If aliens had managed to overcome the almost impossible barrier of getting here why wouldn’t they get in touch when they arrive? And if they didn’t plan to get in touch (for whatever reason) and somehow managed to hide their existence...how could they be so stupid as to be caught on camera by Navy jets?
Much more likely to be a natural phenomenon or man made.
Probably not aliens but who says they want to hide their existence? Either way the technology is fascinating and I wonder which county the craft belongs to Best to keep in mind two maxims: simple explanations are better than complex explanations and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Aliens, if they exist, meaning beings similar to us with advanced technology, language and culture, can’t break the laws of physics. Moving any macroscopic object like a spacecraft around the universe would take a lot of energy and a lot of time (excluding fantasy tech like warp drives that can only exist in Sci-fi).
If aliens had managed to overcome the almost impossible barrier of getting here why wouldn’t they get in touch when they arrive? And if they didn’t plan to get in touch (for whatever reason) and somehow managed to hide their existence...how could they be so stupid as to be caught on camera by Navy jets?
Much more likely to be a natural phenomenon or man made.
Re: Bob Lazar I’m super skeptical about him as are many others
WCZ said:
Probably not aliens but who says they want to hide their existence? Either way the technology is fascinating and I wonder which county the craft belongs to
Re: Bob Lazar I’m super skeptical about him as are many others
Oh indeed, I'm not suggesting the Lizard Freemasons and all that it's just interesting how convincing he appears to be.Re: Bob Lazar I’m super skeptical about him as are many others
kuro said:
Joe Rogan interviewed the pilot a while back.
https://youtu.be/Eco2s3-0zsQ
I've seen that before its a really interesting interview and worth a watch, even for the super skeptics.https://youtu.be/Eco2s3-0zsQ
Gretchen said:
I couldn’t find a thread about this earlier. Shows how crazy this year is. Confirmation of UFOs and no one bats an eyelid.
Yeah it’s insane, it could be the biggest thing that’s happened in history and no one really seems bothered- I understand why people would barely glance at it because of the amount of U.F.O. stories that have emerged but this is probably the most significant Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us. And early in the twenty first century came the great disillusionment.
vonuber said:
Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us. And early in the twenty first century came the great disillusionment.
Quite abstract but I’d argue that anyone who could observe us couldn’t logically be envious of us WCZ said:
vonuber said:
Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us. And early in the twenty first century came the great disillusionment.
Quite abstract but I’d argue that anyone who could observe us couldn’t logically be envious of us WCZ said:
vonuber said:
Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us. And early in the twenty first century came the great disillusionment.
Quite abstract but I’d argue that anyone who could observe us couldn’t logically be envious of us Esceptico said:
Almost certainly not aliens.
Much more likely to be a natural phenomenon or man made.
So you think it's likely we have these capabilities?Much more likely to be a natural phenomenon or man made.
Or something natural moving in this controlled and linear fashion and at those velocities while actively jamming radar?
Please explain.
anonymous said:
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It’s possible. To be fair the extreme movements were not recorded. More conventional movements were. There is masses of drone tech in the US military under development. And off coast of California is the right area for testing? My starting assumption based on the films would be US secret drone / aircraft under development I’m sceptical, but equally I’m open-minded. There are a lot of weird people promoting the whole UFO/Alien thing, in the main conspiracy theorists that give the subject a bad name, but when highly trained military personnel are involved in incidents like this you have to wonder what’s going on.
I’m not entirely sure how sightings like this can be put down to “natural phenomena” - my bet would be secret technology or.... aliens.
I’m also convinced that there are people who know more about this stuff than they’re letting on - it’s a no-brainer for me.
Interesting stuff.
I’m not entirely sure how sightings like this can be put down to “natural phenomena” - my bet would be secret technology or.... aliens.
I’m also convinced that there are people who know more about this stuff than they’re letting on - it’s a no-brainer for me.
Interesting stuff.
WCZ said:
vonuber said:
Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us. And early in the twenty first century came the great disillusionment.
Quite abstract but I’d argue that anyone who could observe us couldn’t logically be envious of us Just a fine work of the imagination, probably as this thread is.........
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