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P40CHM

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30 posts

247 months

Tuesday 28th April 2020
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I tried starting the car up after the winter but no luck. The fuel pump primes but then nothing, the lights do not dip and tried it with jump leads but no change. The car was working when last out in December. Any ideas?

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

170 months

Tuesday 28th April 2020
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Bad fuel, poor connection somewhere like AFM wet plugs, poor spark. It’s a long list. Have you sone any basic checks?

V8fan

7,558 posts

289 months

Tuesday 28th April 2020
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You do not state if the engine is even turning over?

If it is dead, and the battery is fully charged, I'd suggest it is the starter (or the connections to it) or an immobiliser issue.

P40CHM

Original Poster:

30 posts

247 months

Tuesday 28th April 2020
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So no the engine is not turning over, once the pump primes on the first turn of the ignition then nothing when turned to crank the engine, it had a new starter motor last year but I did suspect immobiliser or alarm

Mutley00

295 posts

144 months

Wednesday 29th April 2020
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Sorry this is very vague as I'm not that technical, but I had exactly the same problem. There is a 'hot fix' that installs a stand alone relay, to give more oomph to the starter motor. On my car this relay was dangling free behind the footwell carpet and had become disconnected, then ultimately it failed.

If you can locate it, then its a 10 minute check for you, before I assume the more technically minded on the Forum will come up with a few more scientific pieces of advice.

Good luck.


Loubaruch

1,401 posts

219 months

Wednesday 29th April 2020
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If the engine is not turning over it could be one of several things.

Is the battery fully charged? Is the main engine earth OK? Is the main starter cable making good contact?

You state that the starter motor is recent, connect battery +ve direct to the solenoid to see if it turns over. If not try direct on the starter motor as the solenoid could be faulty or sticking.
Having proved that the starter and battery are OK the fault must lie between the ignition switch and the solenoid or that no volts are reaching the ignition.
switch. The immobiliser lies between the two so this could be faulty or need resetting. Or even a faulty ignition switch.
You do need to systematically eliminate each component or you will just go round in circles.

COG on here has immobiliser bypass instructions.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

130 months

Wednesday 29th April 2020
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P40CHM said:
I tried starting the car up after the winter but no luck. The fuel pump primes but then nothing, the lights do not dip and tried it with jump leads but no change. The car was working when last out in December. Any ideas?
Without jump leads connected, attempt to crank and see if dash lights dim a little

If the main engine earth is good, no dimming of the dash lights points to no supply from starter switch to starter solenoid

Loss of the supply could be a wiring fault at any point of the circuit/loom although immobiliser/alarm faults are often found to be the cause

Is the crank cable connected to the solenoid ? Could have come adrift



PurpleV8

137 posts

237 months

Wednesday 29th April 2020
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Sounds like it could be the immobiliser. The immobiliser relay for the starter motor can get stuck after not being used for a while
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The immobiliser unit is behind the dashboard directly in front of the passenger seat. So in the passed with the same issue, I have held the key in the start/cranking position and after being sure the fuel pump has run, while still holding the key in the start/crank position firmly hit the top of the dash in front of the passenger seat. This is often enough the free the sticking relay and start the car.

Hope it helps

P40CHM

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30 posts

247 months

Thursday 30th April 2020
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Thanks for the replies, unfortuinately still no luck so i guess it will be off to 101 after the lockdown is over to let them work their magic

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

130 months

Thursday 30th April 2020
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PurpleV8 said:
Sounds like it could be the immobiliser. The immobiliser relay for the starter motor can get stuck after not being used for a while
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The immobiliser unit is behind the dashboard directly in front of the passenger seat. So in the passed with the same issue, I have held the key in the start/cranking position and after being sure the fuel pump has run, while still holding the key in the start/crank position firmly hit the top of the dash in front of the passenger seat. This is often enough the free the sticking relay and start the car.

Hope it helps
Michael Jackson - Beat it

Mutley00

295 posts

144 months

Thursday 30th April 2020
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Penelope Stopit said:
Michael Jackson - Beat it
That was Basil Fawlty surely