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Just thought I'd share this with fellow Tuscan owners.
For a little while the starter has been 'sluggish' to crank engine. A few week ago I renewed the Battery to Starter positive cable (2.3 metres for ref.) and this helped a bit. Certainly improved the start operation when car had been stopped and was still hot - and the volts did not drop to around 9V when cranking.
However, I still had this niggle that the starter was reluctant to really do its job. So, bit the bullet, phoned my local factors, quoting Bosch part no.(from parts wiki on here) who advised they could get a Bosch branded factory refurbished unit for £112.
Picked the unit up on Friday, fitted it Saturday - - what a transformation! I can only suspect that the solenoid was not doing a good job. I researched just getting the solenoid - and then thought, yep, OK, what if the brushes and maybe bearings are getting similarly worn? To me it made sense to get a new unit.
It came in a Bosch box, refurb'd in Hungary, 2 year warranty....What's not to like?
Nick
For a little while the starter has been 'sluggish' to crank engine. A few week ago I renewed the Battery to Starter positive cable (2.3 metres for ref.) and this helped a bit. Certainly improved the start operation when car had been stopped and was still hot - and the volts did not drop to around 9V when cranking.
However, I still had this niggle that the starter was reluctant to really do its job. So, bit the bullet, phoned my local factors, quoting Bosch part no.(from parts wiki on here) who advised they could get a Bosch branded factory refurbished unit for £112.
Picked the unit up on Friday, fitted it Saturday - - what a transformation! I can only suspect that the solenoid was not doing a good job. I researched just getting the solenoid - and then thought, yep, OK, what if the brushes and maybe bearings are getting similarly worn? To me it made sense to get a new unit.
It came in a Bosch box, refurb'd in Hungary, 2 year warranty....What's not to like?
Nick
I had exactly the same thing with my starter motor as you mention, sluggish, and seemingly struggling to crank the engine. Had a up-rated Bosch unit fitted during a service at my local indy, and yes, resulted in a massive difference when turning the key, cranking the engine with ease. Well worth getting it done.
Ditto. exactly the same experience and problem. should have done it before. As far as I can see it is the water dripping down from the back of the bonnet which causes the damage to the starter. when I took it apart I was amazed at the water damage internally to the starter. I think the water can only have come down from this problem area referred to in other posts. Now fitted an extra gutter beneath bonnet and also made a cover over head/inlet manifold to divert the water for the future.
Brand new uprated starter from TVR Parts was £100 plus VAT.
Brand new uprated starter from TVR Parts was £100 plus VAT.
desperately sad said:
Ditto. exactly the same experience and problem. should have done it before. As far as I can see it is the water dripping down from the back of the bonnet which causes the damage to the starter. when I took it apart I was amazed at the water damage internally to the starter. I think the water can only have come down from this problem area referred to in other posts. Now fitted an extra gutter beneath bonnet and also made a cover over head/inlet manifold to divert the water for the future.
Brand new uprated starter from TVR Parts was £100 plus VAT.
Hi desperate(??),Brand new uprated starter from TVR Parts was £100 plus VAT.
When I searched TVR Parts Thursday last, the starters (1.4Kw - as original fit) were £120'ish + VAT...then there would have been carriage.
Plus, my local factors are a great bunch - only 'phoned them as a long shot?
Can you post a pic of your "gutter" arrangement? Your comments re: water damage makes sense...and I guess the coil pack is in the water drain damage area too!
Nick
Hi Nick
Only just picked up your post. I bought the starter from TVR Parts at the end of last year and that was the price then (plus a bit of carriage).
I will post a photo of my gutter arrangement - and also the plate that I made which fits over the hole conveniently situated to drip water down from above....
Only just picked up your post. I bought the starter from TVR Parts at the end of last year and that was the price then (plus a bit of carriage).
I will post a photo of my gutter arrangement - and also the plate that I made which fits over the hole conveniently situated to drip water down from above....
I hope I can successfully attach a couple of photos - but been having a lot of trouble with a new computer and windows 10 !!
It is a belt and braces mod. I used some rubber channel of the type which goes on the bottom of pre war cars windscreen. This extends the TVR fibreglass (too short) channel. I superglued the rubber channel to a piece of flat rubber sheet to give a wider channel. This is glued underneath the TVR fibreglass. As it is all made of rubber it flops down when the bonnet is closed so does not interfere with the bonnet. Therefore any drips of water coming down from the windscreen are now directed further to the offside of the car and not down in the vicinity of the starter etc.
I then also made up (from aluminium sheet) a simple plate (painted black - I hope you can see it in the photo) which covered the hole above the sensor plug.
I hope this is all clear.
I suspect there are many different ways of doing a mod for this problem. The plate is easy but I had difficulty in finding a rubber channel which would extend the TVR fibreglass bit.![](https://thumbsnap.com/sc/RAnBukq6.jpg[/img]</a> <a href="https://thumbsnap.com/RAnBukq6" Target="_blank" rel="nofollow">[img]https://thumbsnap.com/sc/RAnBukq6.jpg[/img]</a> <a href="https://thumbsnap.com/UoaG5we7" Target="_blank" rel="nofollow">[img]https://thumbsnap.com/sc/UoaG5we7.jpg)
It is a belt and braces mod. I used some rubber channel of the type which goes on the bottom of pre war cars windscreen. This extends the TVR fibreglass (too short) channel. I superglued the rubber channel to a piece of flat rubber sheet to give a wider channel. This is glued underneath the TVR fibreglass. As it is all made of rubber it flops down when the bonnet is closed so does not interfere with the bonnet. Therefore any drips of water coming down from the windscreen are now directed further to the offside of the car and not down in the vicinity of the starter etc.
I then also made up (from aluminium sheet) a simple plate (painted black - I hope you can see it in the photo) which covered the hole above the sensor plug.
I hope this is all clear.
I suspect there are many different ways of doing a mod for this problem. The plate is easy but I had difficulty in finding a rubber channel which would extend the TVR fibreglass bit.
Good shout, I use the Tuscan so little that I keep forgetting I need to clean up the contacts in the starter solenoid- but at £100 or so it will be worth replacing it instead! Starting is slowly getting worse as I just get the "click", then after a couple of attempts (usually) it's on the button. We get through loads at work but weekend jobs don't seem to get remembered!
topcat1 said:
Good shout, I use the Tuscan so little that I keep forgetting I need to clean up the contacts in the starter solenoid- but at £100 or so it will be worth replacing it instead! Starting is slowly getting worse as I just get the "click", then after a couple of attempts (usually) it's on the button. We get through loads at work but weekend jobs don't seem to get remembered!
How easy is it it to clean them? mine need same....nawarne said:
It came in a Bosch box, refurb'd in Hungary, 2 year warranty....What's not to like?
Bosch sold out their starter motor businessProbably made in China
https://www.eenewsautomotive.com/news/bosch-sells-...
You did ask
Penelope Stopit said:
Bosch sold out their starter motor business
Probably made in China
https://www.eenewsautomotive.com/news/bosch-sells-...
You did ask
OK, Penelope, - the (Bosch logo'd) packaging definitely stated manufactured in Hungary....Maybe it was what the motor factor's stockists had left on their shelves?Probably made in China
https://www.eenewsautomotive.com/news/bosch-sells-...
You did ask
In any event, it did the job superbly well, guess the acid test is how long it lasts!
Nick
nawarne said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Bosch sold out their starter motor business
Probably made in China
https://www.eenewsautomotive.com/news/bosch-sells-...
You did ask
OK, Penelope, - the (Bosch logo'd) packaging definitely stated manufactured in Hungary....Maybe it was what the motor factor's stockists had left on their shelves?Probably made in China
https://www.eenewsautomotive.com/news/bosch-sells-...
You did ask
In any event, it did the job superbly well, guess the acid test is how long it lasts!
Nick
Something that I hadn't considered earlier is that the parts fitted could be made by Bosch machines, I mean a buy-out is often the whole lot
It'll be right, wasn't being picky, didn't even know Bosch had sold out until reading your post that mentioned Bosch Hungary, then went on a search
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