GMP Tasering in a petrol station.
GMP Tasering in a petrol station.
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anonymous-user

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78 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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Just following a GMP (greater Manchester police) faceache post about them 'tasting' biglaugh a man in the local area following video emerging on social media.
(They've edited the post now)

That aside I wouldn't have thought using a Taser on a petrol station forecourt seems the brightest of moves ? Or am I wrong as usual?

The guy involved was a big lad, like the one recently shot by an ex copper in Georgia America
https://youtu.be/WJiJkivQllw

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1,622 posts

178 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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Looks fine to me.

Balance of risks - very close range and small risk of ignition (big impact of course if it happens!) , Vs very high chance of a struggle and someone getting hurt in trying to physically restrain the guy.

Needed to make a decision quickly. They did.








grombot

80 posts

167 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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His crime... accorinding to andy burnham, breaking lockdown.

What the hell is going on in this country!

davidball

731 posts

226 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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Need to know the back story before it looks fine to me.

milkround

1,333 posts

103 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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Bit over the top for simply going for a second walk.

Wonder what they do with the kid in that situation.

Agammemnon

1,628 posts

82 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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That taser seemed to be crackling on a few occasions, not as a matter of self defence but to force compliance- this when the guy in question is probably going to have great difficulty complying.

I wonder how much of a threat the guy would be with his little kid in attendance.

Earthdweller

18,178 posts

150 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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Agammemnon said:
That taser seemed to be crackling on a few occasions, not as a matter of self defence but to force compliance- this when the guy in question is probably going to have great difficulty complying.

I wonder how much of a threat the guy would be with his little kid in attendance.
Based on an 8 second snapshot we’ll never know

The taser records it’s use ( which must be proportionate )

The officer’s BWV will give a much clearer idea of what happened as will many other things

Based on that clip you cannot judge

rowley birkin

513 posts

124 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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I mis-read the thread title as GIMP tasering.... hopefully Specsavers will be open on Monday.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

78 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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grombot said:
His crime... accorinding to andy burnham, breaking lockdown.

What the hell is going on in this country!
Jeeez I wouldn't take much notice of whatever that balloonheaded muppet says.
davidball said:
Need to know the back story before it looks fine to me.
This all over, supposedly arrested and charged with a number of offences.

Just wondered about use of taser on forecourts, lots 'could' go wrong? Obviously not.

I was surprised to see a car jumpstarted right by a petrol pump before, I would have thought pushing it away a bit may have been more sensible.

And there's Sainsbury's nonattended fuel forecourts worrying about using your mobile phone to scan for nectar points biggrin

Evanivitch

25,996 posts

146 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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speedyguy said:
The guy involved was a big lad, like the one recently shot by an ex copper in Georgia America
https://youtu.be/WJiJkivQllw
Big? He's notably smaller than the police officer on the right.

The taser is not supposed to be the first resort. Unarmed man, against two police officers getting tasered is a complete stitch up. Crap policing.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

78 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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Evanivitch said:
speedyguy said:
The guy involved was a big lad, like the one recently shot by an ex copper in Georgia America
https://youtu.be/WJiJkivQllw
Big? He's notably smaller than the police officer on the right.

The taser is not supposed to be the first resort. Unarmed man, against two police officers getting tasered is a complete stitch up. Crap policing.
Who is he? What is he being arrested for?

It may be he has demonstrated serious violence towards the police on previous occasions, he may have previously used weapons plus loads of other variables.

Taser also wasn't the first resort.

Ntv

5,177 posts

147 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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Disgraceful policing from the cowards

What are the police looking for this summer ?

Fatball

645 posts

83 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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Burnham is wrong, the guy has been charged with drink driving and other offences such as speeding and no insurance. Shame he didn’t think of his child while doing all that. Deserved to be tasered just for that let alone refusing to comply with officers.

Evanivitch

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146 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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La Liga said:
ho is he? What is he being arrested for?

It may be he has demonstrated serious violence towards the police on previous occasions, he may have previously used weapons plus loads of other variables.

Taser also wasn't the first resort.
So police often walk up to people with a known history of violence and weapons without first drawing their tasers? Rubbish.

Police officer escalated this situation by using a potentially lethal device.

Evanivitch

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146 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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Fatball said:
Burnham is wrong, the guy has been charged with drink driving and other offences such as speeding and no insurance. Shame he didn’t think of his child while doing all that. Deserved to be tasered just for that let alone refusing to comply with officers.
Hope he gets a big sentence for drink driving, endangering his child and resisting arrest.

Still didn't deserve to be tasered.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

78 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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Evanivitch said:
La Liga said:
ho is he? What is he being arrested for?

It may be he has demonstrated serious violence towards the police on previous occasions, he may have previously used weapons plus loads of other variables.

Taser also wasn't the first resort.
So police often walk up to people with a known history of violence and weapons without first drawing their tasers? Rubbish.
At what point did they know who he was?

Was a PNC check done just before the filming started, for example?

The police often find out about a person's risk after they've started to talk to them etc.

The police often approach people with previous known violence without PPE drawn. It depends on the circumstances.

Evanivitch said:
Police officer escalated this situation by using a potentially lethal device.
Any force has a probability of lethality. A taser has a very low probability.

I'd suggest resolved rather than escalated.

Fatball

645 posts

83 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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Evanivitch said:
Hope he gets a big sentence for drink driving, endangering his child and resisting arrest.

Still didn't deserve to be tasered.
None of us know if he deserved it or not. Our personal views may differ but ultimately the seconds of footage available do not show the whole picture and don’t show what he was saying which can go on to show he may or may not have deserved it.


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

78 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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'Deserve' is always the wrong language. It implies punishment.

It's a case of whether or not it was justified and reasonable in the circumstances in relation to the law.


Fatball

645 posts

83 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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La Liga said:
'Deserve' is always the wrong language. It implies punishment.

It's a case of whether or not it was justified and reasonable in the circumstances in relation to the law.
Taser or visit to court with points and financial implications? Show me tasered smile