How and what are Amazon delivery drivers paid?
How and what are Amazon delivery drivers paid?
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Deep Thought

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Friday 8th May 2020
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Just curious as to how and what Amazon delivery drivers are paid? Is it per parcel and if so how much per parcel?


HRL

3,353 posts

236 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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Not enough, whatever amount it is.

Had three separate drivers deliver from Amazon yesterday.

Jamescrs

5,446 posts

82 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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Theres a few people have done YouTube blogs about it, they are quite an interesting watch.

In very broad terms they are all self employed, Amazon make delivery slots available through an app which states x amount of hours to deliver x amount of parcels in an area and they quote a payment for that work and people registered with them can put themselves forward for the slots, some will do a number of slots per day.

Edit- go on YouTube and search Amazon driver for a week and a few different videos come up. The Ben Morris one is quite good.

Edited by Jamescrs on Friday 8th May 18:35

Simpo Two

89,526 posts

282 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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HRL said:
Not enough, whatever amount it is.
You may be right, but before you can say that, you need to know how much they're paid smile

Nickyboy

6,756 posts

251 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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Typically £100- £120 a day regardless of how many hours they work, then they have to pay to use the van, fuel and equipment

Once all that is deducted it's £6-7 per hour. They're self employed so no minimum wage. They're also deducted for lateness, missed deliveries etc etc

jammy-git

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229 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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Nickyboy said:
Typically £100- £120 a day regardless of how many hours they work, then they have to pay to use the van, fuel and equipment

Once all that is deducted it's £6-7 per hour. They're self employed so no minimum wage. They're also deducted for lateness, missed deliveries etc etc
Yup. The exploitation of workers by Amazon is really quite disgusting.

TurnedEmo

688 posts

65 months

Friday 8th May 2020
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It seems it can work as one of my customers also owns a large logistics business (mostly in steel haulage), but they also run a fleet of Amazon vans from their depot.

Somehow, they make enough money to run the vans and pay drivers.

Maybe it's an economy of scale thing - plus getting fuel at 'cost' price.

jsc15

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225 months

Saturday 9th May 2020
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Simpo Two

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282 months

Saturday 9th May 2020
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jammy-git said:
Nickyboy said:
Typically £100- £120 a day regardless of how many hours they work, then they have to pay to use the van, fuel and equipment

Once all that is deducted it's £6-7 per hour. They're self employed so no minimum wage. They're also deducted for lateness, missed deliveries etc etc
Yup. The exploitation of workers by Amazon is really quite disgusting.
One might argue that's why we import cheap labour from the EU. Most delivery drivers seem to be Eastern Europeans whose vocabulary is limited to the word 'parcel'. Why do you think they came here to do that? Because it was a better deal than they could get in their home country? We can't even pick our own crops any more.

I'm not saying it's right, it's just a facet of globalisation. And you do all want 'free delivery', right?

Deep Thought

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Saturday 9th May 2020
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Interesting, particularly the link.

It probably does come back to then £12ish an hour minus van, insurance and fuel costs - and no doubt a load of dogs abuse too.

And yes its mostly eastern europeans who do our deliveries here to our house. Vans vary from rental vans to some old transit.

I see Amazon have introduced "delivery days", whereby you can opt for a particular day for deliveries rather than this having various items delivered across many days even if you're in no rush for them.

jammy-git

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Saturday 9th May 2020
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Simpo Two said:
jammy-git said:
Nickyboy said:
Typically £100- £120 a day regardless of how many hours they work, then they have to pay to use the van, fuel and equipment

Once all that is deducted it's £6-7 per hour. They're self employed so no minimum wage. They're also deducted for lateness, missed deliveries etc etc
Yup. The exploitation of workers by Amazon is really quite disgusting.
One might argue that's why we import cheap labour from the EU. Most delivery drivers seem to be Eastern Europeans whose vocabulary is limited to the word 'parcel'. Why do you think they came here to do that? Because it was a better deal than they could get in their home country? We can't even pick our own crops any more.

I'm not saying it's right, it's just a facet of globalisation. And you do all want 'free delivery', right?
That makes it sound like it could be one or the other; free next day delivery or drivers paid a fair wage. Given the profits Amazon make, I'd say they could afford to pay a little more to their workers.

Deep Thought

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jammy-git said:
That makes it sound like it could be one or the other; free next day delivery or drivers paid a fair wage. Given the profits Amazon make, I'd say they could afford to pay a little more to their workers.
yes

Also - their model of sending each item out pretty much separately (ie not attempting to combine deliveries to one run) cant be effective. I've had three amazon deliveries in the one day from separate drivers.

Although i do see now they've introduced what they do in the US which is you have an Amazon delivery day (changeable) and you can opt to have your deliveries all in (presumably) one delivery on that one day.

Phunk

2,063 posts

188 months

Saturday 9th May 2020
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I used to do Amazon flex deliveries - ask away!

I normally do Amazon Prime Now deliveries as households are normally home expecting packages, so you don’t need to return to the depot if no one is home.

Pay depends on how desperate for drivers they are, but typically £13 p/h as a minimum up to £20 if they’re really desperate.

When working as a Amazon flex driver you can do up to 26 hours per week which you need to try and pick up on an app in 1, 2 or 4 hour blocks.

A couple of years ago you used to be able to get tips included which helped bolster things up - these have since been removed.

You use your own car and they provide insurance.

BoRED S2upid

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257 months

Saturday 9th May 2020
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Jamescrs said:
Theres a few people have done YouTube blogs about it, they are quite an interesting watch.

In very broad terms they are all self employed, Amazon make delivery slots available through an app which states x amount of hours to deliver x amount of parcels in an area and they quote a payment for that work and people registered with them can put themselves forward for the slots, some will do a number of slots per day.

Edit- go on YouTube and search Amazon driver for a week and a few different videos come up. The Ben Morris one is quite good.

Edited by Jamescrs on Friday 8th May 18:35
Interesting that explains the various delivery drivers we get. There’s an old boy who’s in his 70’s using his car with only a few parcels in it obviously just a bit of pocket money for him and a house wife again similar amount of parcels and no van also a few tradesmen using their works vans.

Deep Thought

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Saturday 9th May 2020
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Phunk said:
I used to do Amazon flex deliveries - ask away!

I normally do Amazon Prime Now deliveries as households are normally home expecting packages, so you don’t need to return to the depot if no one is home.

Pay depends on how desperate for drivers they are, but typically £13 p/h as a minimum up to £20 if they’re really desperate.

When working as a Amazon flex driver you can do up to 26 hours per week which you need to try and pick up on an app in 1, 2 or 4 hour blocks.

A couple of years ago you used to be able to get tips included which helped bolster things up - these have since been removed.

You use your own car and they provide insurance.
Thats interesting. So someone cant do full time hours at it?

vaud

55,698 posts

172 months

Saturday 9th May 2020
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Amazon also have their own vans in areas where they have built a regional hub. Most of our deliveries now come from a new Amazon van - I'm guessing they are full time?

markcoznottz

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241 months

Saturday 9th May 2020
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vaud said:
Amazon also have their own vans in areas where they have built a regional hub. Most of our deliveries now come from a new Amazon van - I'm guessing they are full time?
A lot of eBay orders are coming in amazon packaging but delivered by local se couriers, no mention on eBay of being fulfilled by amazon, just says other courier.

vaud

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172 months

Saturday 9th May 2020
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markcoznottz said:
A lot of eBay orders are coming in amazon packaging but delivered by local se couriers, no mention on eBay of being fulfilled by amazon, just says other courier.
Yup. Amazon have built a brilliant logistics network... and will now monetize it. In the US you can buy space on their wider logistics fleet as well (state to state) using their platform.

Kind of like how they monetized AWS which was built for Amazon.com.

A500leroy

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135 months

Saturday 9th May 2020
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better than Hermes at 80p per parcel minus van and insurance

phil-sti

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196 months

Saturday 9th May 2020
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Deep Thought said:
jammy-git said:
That makes it sound like it could be one or the other; free next day delivery or drivers paid a fair wage. Given the profits Amazon make, I'd say they could afford to pay a little more to their workers.
yes

Also - their model of sending each item out pretty much separately (ie not attempting to combine deliveries to one run) cant be effective. I've had three amazon deliveries in the one day from separate drivers.

Although i do see now they've introduced what they do in the US which is you have an Amazon delivery day (changeable) and you can opt to have your deliveries all in (presumably) one delivery on that one day.
They don’t get the items all from the same place so you will be in separate boxes.