DB9 vs DBS
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laeumh

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24 posts

126 months

Sunday 17th May 2020
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Can anyone just clarify the difference i.e. I thought these were pretty much the same spec cars, so why is a DBS volante,2011 £15k more than a 2015 DB9 volante (same @mileage) ?
Cheers

Dobie177

252 posts

162 months

Sunday 17th May 2020
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Spec-wise, not hugely dissimilar cars - though obvious more aggressive styling on the DBS. But, primarily it’s down to desirability and rarity. Many more DB9s than DBS’ - and a DBS is a black badge top, former top of line model.

Astontony

523 posts

84 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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Previous answer was close but no cigar. There are lots of differences between the db9 and dbs, here are a few. DBS has a carbon body, weighs 70kg less has a reworked engine producing more HP, may have different seats, better suspension and better auto mapping and can be in a pure manual form. Also has carbon ceramic brakes, Also if you look closely, aero is different, bonnet scoops x 2 and the carbon body allows for different profile to the guards as there is a clear line over mud guards compared to the DB9
IMO resale of the DBS will out perform the DB9.

shuzzy

294 posts

244 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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Astontony said:
Previous answer was close but no cigar. There are lots of differences between the db9 and dbs, here are a few. DBS has a carbon body, weighs 70kg less has a reworked engine producing more HP, may have different seats, better suspension and better auto mapping and can be in a pure manual form. Also has carbon ceramic brakes, Also if you look closely, aero is different, bonnet scoops x 2 and the carbon body allows for different profile to the guards as there is a clear line over mud guards compared to the DB9
IMO resale of the DBS will out perform the DB9.
Again, not all correct, some of the things you point out as different are actually the same.

They both produce 510 BHP, they have the type same seats just differrent trims, not sure how the suspension is better they both have adjustable damping, the DB9 can be driven in manual mode on the padels alone. Both have carbon ceramic brakes.

As you say the DBS is probably the more iconic of the 2 and hence higher residuals.

Beckson

445 posts

81 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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The DBS was retired in 2012, hence in late 2012 or 2013 the DB9 basically became the DBS with numerous upgrades such as CC brakes, 510 horsepower etc.
Prior to 2013 however there were a lot more differences between the DB9 and DBS.

The 2013 DB9 will have a upgraded interior, but a 2012 DBS still has the carbon fiber body panels etc.

I'd go DBS.... so iconic

Astontony

523 posts

84 months

Monday 25th May 2020
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shuzzy said:
Again, not all correct, some of the things you point out as different are actually the same.

They both produce 510 BHP, they have the type same seats just differrent trims, not sure how the suspension is better they both have adjustable damping, the DB9 can be driven in manual mode on the padels alone. Both have carbon ceramic brakes.

As you say the DBS is probably the more iconic of the 2 and hence higher residuals.
Sorry I was quoting on a db9 older than a 2014 eg a 2010/11, no ceramics, no suspension setting other than a sport button, slightly lower hp. Not carbon fibre body etc.

AstonZagato

14,247 posts

240 months

Monday 25th May 2020
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I had three DB9s (05, 06, 09) followed by a DBS (10). All were coupes.

The DBS is more than the sum of its parts. It was, on one level, just an early DB9 turned up to 11 but it produced a car that really sung. It is the only car I regret selling - and I almost bought it back when I heard the chap who bought mine had moved it on.

I can't comment on the later DB9s, as I moved on to the Vanquishes. However, the later DB9GTs were visually almost identical but had many of the later refinements.

The DBS, as the then halo model, will always command a premium. It was more often (though still rarely) specced with a manual box. Manuals are now very sought after (though I rather like the Jekyll and Hyde nature of the Touchtronic versions). Whether they are quantifiably or objectively better than a late DB9 I would doubt; but subjectively and emotionally, I would guess the DBS would always edge it.

vulcan26

63 posts

129 months

Monday 25th May 2020
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Theres actually a reasonable comparison done by Clarkson for Top Gear on Youtube. He asks the same questions as to why you'd pay much more for the DBS vs the DB9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b97UVBCqPXI

paulrog1

1,235 posts

171 months

Monday 25th May 2020
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I've seen that video loads of times, brilliant.

DB9VolanteDriver

2,658 posts

206 months

Monday 25th May 2020
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laeumh said:
Can anyone just clarify the difference i.e. I thought these were pretty much the same spec cars, so why is a DBS volante,2011 £15k more than a 2015 DB9 volante (same @mileage) ?
Cheers
Simple. If you buy the DB9 you’ll have to kill yourself...at least according to one automotive pundit.

AWV12

650 posts

177 months

Monday 25th May 2020
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laeumh said:
Can anyone just clarify the difference i.e. I thought these were pretty much the same spec cars, so why is a DBS volante,2011 £15k more than a 2015 DB9 volante (same @mileage) ?
Cheers
As written by others here already it is a totally different drive (test drive both and you understand).
The funny thing is, that the DBS probably will also depreciate much less from this point onwards than the DB9, so the 15K more is not gone when reselling the car in a few years, if you might do that.

ruhall

578 posts

176 months

Monday 25th May 2020
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It probably doesn't help that the DB9, DBS, Virage and Vanquish (and revised DB9 from 2012/13) all look very similar to the 'average' person. I know that sounds like politician-speak when they refer to the 'ordinary people', as if they're something extra-special. To be fair, they must be, I suppose, or people wouldn't vote for them, would they ? scratchchin

A knowledgeable petrolhead recently said to me that the Virage model had come and gone unnoticed by him, which tends to highlight the point.

I didn't think that the DBS was all-carbon, weren't some panels aluminium?

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 25th May 2020
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AWV12 said:
laeumh said:
Can anyone just clarify the difference i.e. I thought these were pretty much the same spec cars, so why is a DBS volante,2011 £15k more than a 2015 DB9 volante (same @mileage) ?
Cheers
As written by others here already it is a totally different drive (test drive both and you understand).
The funny thing is, that the DBS probably will also depreciate much less from this point onwards than the DB9, so the 15K more is not gone when reselling the car in a few years, if you might do that.
The difference between a DBS and a pre virage DB9 is significant.

The difference between a DBS and a post virage DB9 is pretty much asthetics, different exhaust box (I think), with some carbon panels to shave a few kgs.

The OP has asked about the latter, why do people keep posting comparison comments about the early car. That is not the question and very misleading.

AWV12

650 posts

177 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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ruhall said:
It probably doesn't help that the DB9, DBS, Virage and Vanquish (and revised DB9 from 2012/13) all look very similar to the 'average' person. I know that sounds like politician-speak when they refer to the 'ordinary people', as if they're something extra-special. To be fair, they must be, I suppose, or people wouldn't vote for them, would they ? scratchchin

A knowledgeable petrolhead recently said to me that the Virage model had come and gone unnoticed by him, which tends to highlight the point.

I didn't think that the DBS was all-carbon, weren't some panels aluminium?
I would not care what other people think of it, but which car suited me most. For me the DBS is much more involving to drive, others might think differently. So, as suggested already: test drive both, and YOU know what to buy (regardless what other people think).