Is there an app available that logs speed & roads travelled?
Is there an app available that logs speed & roads travelled?
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garysan

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28 posts

174 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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Looking for an iPhone app that keeps GPS data such as speed and route travelled that I could use to prove what speed I was travelling along any given road. Something that records it along with time/date/etc?

I got pulled the other night doing 60 on a National speed limit, single carriageway road - within the speed limit as my needle showed 60mph but Waze GPS shows me at 57/58 when car reads 60. PC accused me of doing 'at least 80' (he'd come soaring up behind me from quite a distance and then lit me up).

He was quite adversarial and wasn't interested in my continued assertions that I was not over the posted speed limit - in fairness to him he may well have believed 100% that I was doing that speed but I was well aware he was there (from about 1km away) so I made completely sure I was not speeding at any point. Made me think for future use I should have something like this running in the background on the phone as the argument about who was right lasted about 8 mins (recorded the whole thing, audio only so not shoving a camera in his face which only antagonises I should think).

He stomped off in the end saying something about it had been annotated on my record that I'd been stopped and spoken to about excess speed which a.) didn't seem at all fair as I wasn't speeding and b.) sounded a bit sinister - as if I get stopped again they'll be some kind of 'pattern of behaviour' they can use against me...?

I haven't been stopped in over a decade so this encounter was not pleasant and didn't exactly endear me to the BiB.

Be interested to hear other peoples' thoughts on the above?

KungFuPanda

4,639 posts

199 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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Just buy a dash cam with gps and speed recording.

Funk

27,657 posts

238 months

Monday 18th May 2020
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KungFuPanda said:
Just buy a dash cam with gps and speed recording.
This.

meatballs

1,140 posts

89 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Dash cam smile

Waze keeps a record of your trips, if you goto the website and login to the map editor and select drives. I don't think it will have speeds per section though.

Edited by meatballs on Tuesday 19th May 08:03

zzrman

670 posts

218 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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My Garmin BMW Navigator V records each trip and shows the exact speed at any given point.

SouthHamsGaz

629 posts

152 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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I use Speedometer GPS Pro. That is Android, but may be available for Iphone. Cost less than £2 when I paid for it a few years ago.

Does everything you wanted and is an excellent app. Gives you a map overlay that you can tap on to see your speed at that location.

App icon looks like this.


jet_noise

6,091 posts

211 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Be careful what you wish for smile

Do you really want a record of the previous 10 miles (YMMV wink ) of "making progress" before you spotted the police car?
I've no idea if the police could seize/require production of/know about such a thing. But if it could work for you it might also work the other way.

catso

16,420 posts

296 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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jet_noise said:
Be careful what you wish for smile

Do you really want a record of the previous 10 miles (YMMV wink ) of "making progress" before you spotted the police car?
I've no idea if the police could seize/require production of/know about such a thing. But if it could work for you it might also work the other way.
Indeed, plus I very much doubt that your 'proof' would be accepted in your defence? (could be faked etc.) but quite likely to be used against you if it shows you 'making progress'.

garysan

Original Poster:

28 posts

174 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Thanks for the comments thus far. I'm not daft enough to show any 'proof' of my speed unless I'd been behaving the whole trip but I hear what you're saying. It's more for proving that I'd been 'a good boy' prior to noticing plod. He was well out of order with me and would have been supremely satisfying to be able to have given him the polite middle finger with my own proof - especially after I suggested he couldn't/didn't have any proof of me doing 80 and he replied 'I don't need evidence'...

I did consider sticking a GoPro on top of steering column facing instruments so I could play it back if required and just have it there continually recording but perhaps I'm over-thinking and I'll have no bother down the road (pun intended).

Dibble

13,276 posts

269 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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I use an app called “MotionX GPS” on my iPhone, but I don’t know whether on not it’s available for Android. If it isn’t, I’m sure there will be other similar apps. Like any GPS app, it does take a bit of practice to get the most out of it, but as an example, you can track journeys, with data including speed, time, distance, map overview, etc. There’s a lot of data available, but the potential downside (for what you’d like it for) is that the speed only updates every two minutes or so. So if you spent a minute at 80mph and a minute at 40mph, your speed would show as 60mph (I think - my maths might not be right, but you hopefully get what I mean).

As well as the map overview, you can also view the speed/altitude data graphically, either speed OR altitude, or both, overlaid on each other. I’ve just grabbed some screen shots from one of my saved trips on my motorbike In Sweden, although the car icon is shown, as it doesn’t given a motorbike option for type of activity, there are lots of other options from walking, cycling, running, sailing, etc.

Map view:



General data (top half):


General data (bottom half):



More general data, but landscape format:



Graphical view of speed and altitude data:



There’s lots of available options, so you can rename track logs, add photos... there’s a lot of customisation you can do. I’m not sure whether or not you’d be able to increase how often the speed is recorded, rather than the two minute average.

Dibble

13,276 posts

269 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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You can also scroll through the graphs, left to righ, rather than it all being squashed into the width of a screen.

Pothole

34,367 posts

311 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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garysan said:
Looking for an iPhone app that keeps GPS data such as speed and route travelled that I could use to prove what speed I was travelling along any given road. Something that records it along with time/date/etc?

I got pulled the other night doing 60 on a National speed limit, single carriageway road - within the speed limit as my needle showed 60mph but Waze GPS shows me at 57/58 when car reads 60. PC accused me of doing 'at least 80' (he'd come soaring up behind me from quite a distance and then lit me up).

He was quite adversarial and wasn't interested in my continued assertions that I was not over the posted speed limit - in fairness to him he may well have believed 100% that I was doing that speed but I was well aware he was there (from about 1km away) so I made completely sure I was not speeding at any point. Made me think for future use I should have something like this running in the background on the phone as the argument about who was right lasted about 8 mins (recorded the whole thing, audio only so not shoving a camera in his face which only antagonises I should think).

He stomped off in the end saying something about it had been annotated on my record that I'd been stopped and spoken to about excess speed which a.) didn't seem at all fair as I wasn't speeding and b.) sounded a bit sinister - as if I get stopped again they'll be some kind of 'pattern of behaviour' they can use against me...?

I haven't been stopped in over a decade so this encounter was not pleasant and didn't exactly endear me to the BiB.

Be interested to hear other peoples' thoughts on the above?
Nothing has been recorded. If this happened as you described the plod is a plonker.

bobtail4x4

4,407 posts

138 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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a tracker will record everything

and the police wont know to ask for its details

meatballs

1,140 posts

89 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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garysan said:
Thanks for the comments thus far. I'm not daft enough to show any 'proof' of my speed unless I'd been behaving the whole trip but I hear what you're saying. It's more for proving that I'd been 'a good boy' prior to noticing plod. He was well out of order with me and would have been supremely satisfying to be able to have given him the polite middle finger with my own proof - especially after I suggested he couldn't/didn't have any proof of me doing 80 and he replied 'I don't need evidence'...

I did consider sticking a GoPro on top of steering column facing instruments so I could play it back if required and just have it there continually recording but perhaps I'm over-thinking and I'll have no bother down the road (pun intended).
I would be considering a complaint to the police force if you had audio recording of him saying he doesn't need evidence tbh.

Byker28i

91,550 posts

246 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Google maps on your phone and a timeline? Does that show anything?

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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meatballs said:
garysan said:
Thanks for the comments thus far. I'm not daft enough to show any 'proof' of my speed unless I'd been behaving the whole trip but I hear what you're saying. It's more for proving that I'd been 'a good boy' prior to noticing plod. He was well out of order with me and would have been supremely satisfying to be able to have given him the polite middle finger with my own proof - especially after I suggested he couldn't/didn't have any proof of me doing 80 and he replied 'I don't need evidence'...

I did consider sticking a GoPro on top of steering column facing instruments so I could play it back if required and just have it there continually recording but perhaps I'm over-thinking and I'll have no bother down the road (pun intended).
I would be considering a complaint to the police force if you had audio recording of him saying he doesn't need evidence tbh.
Well he doesn't actually need any more evidence or proof as you put it, a single Officer's opinion that you were speeding, corroborated by a calibrated speedometer is enough for a successful proscection.

This isn't going any further anyway, so time to move on

garysan

Original Poster:

28 posts

174 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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martinbiz said:
Well he doesn't actually need any more evidence or proof as you put it, a single Officer's opinion that you were speeding, corroborated by a calibrated speedometer is enough for a successful proscection.

This isn't going any further anyway, so time to move on
Not sure about this.... I was under the impression that it was established quite a while ago that a single officers testimony was worth no more than any other person/member of the public so his view I was speeding vs my view that I was not, with no corroborating evidence is merely hearsay?

meatballs

1,140 posts

89 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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garysan said:
martinbiz said:
Well he doesn't actually need any more evidence or proof as you put it, a single Officer's opinion that you were speeding, corroborated by a calibrated speedometer is enough for a successful proscection.

This isn't going any further anyway, so time to move on
Not sure about this.... I was under the impression that it was established quite a while ago that a single officers testimony was worth no more than any other person/member of the public so his view I was speeding vs my view that I was not, with no corroborating evidence is merely hearsay?
I wouldn't be complaining on the basis of that's not what's required for prosecution, but about the professional standards shown. Police officers shouldn't go around telling people they "don't need evidence". It's not far off the police officer who said he'd "make something up". That said I haven't heard the recording.

Solocle

4,196 posts

113 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Strava...

Would want to either download or set private "rides" at the end though, because it's aimed at active travel.

This was an actual bike ride, it's set to kph, not mph (there is an option).

garysan

Original Poster:

28 posts

174 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Solocle said:
Strava...

Would want to either download or set private "rides" at the end though, because it's aimed at active travel.

This was an actual bike ride, it's set to kph, not mph (there is an option).
That might be a bloody good shout actually - thanks. I'll give it a test as I've used Strava for cycling (back when I cycled - need to get back into that...).