So, no n/a engines for the 992 GT3/GT3RS??

[RDMcG]

Sounds like it to me:

https://jalopnik.com/porsche-rules-out-using-a-nat...

[OPOGTS]

I think he actually says turbos for the Carreras and NA for the GTs for as long as possible, no?

Basically as per the 991

[Twinfan]

Yep, NA for the 992 GT3s but not the Carrera.

Not sure why it costs too much in R&D to flip the 4.0 from the Cayster around and into a 911. It was cost effective to develop it for the Cayster platform, of which they sell fewer units in total? I would imagine it's more that the 992 product with all its technology doesn't sit with an old-skool engine. Although he's the boss and that's what he's said...

[RDMcG]

Twinfan said:

Yep, NA for the 992 GT3s but not the Carrera.

Not sure why it costs too much in R&D to flip the 4.0 from the Cayster around and into a 911. It was cost effective to develop it for the Cayster platform, of which they sell fewer units in total? I would imagine it's more that the 992 product with all its technology doesn't sit with an old-skool engine. Although he's the boss and that's what he's said...

sorry ..my mistake.

will go for the 992 3RS as I planned then!

[SFO]

It’s Porsche protecting the 911 GT aura ..

I don’t believe it’s to do with engineering costs

Just like the manual transmission being only available with Carrera S and not Carrara, this is about Porsche maintaining its profitability

[Cheib]

The actual quote is “as long as feasibly possible” for N/A GT cars....I’d guess 992 is the last maybe 992.1,

[RDMcG]

Cheib said:

The actual quote is “as long as feasibly possible” for N/A GT cars....I’d guess 992 is the last maybe 992.1,

I would agree. Of course, later cars will be faster, no idea if better. Time will tell.

[FrankCayman]

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Either way...all their plans have probably gone tits up now. Be interesting how it all pans out

[Heathrow]

I would imagine fleet CO2 averages are in the mix too. The smaller the number of manual and nasp cars produced, the better the overall fleet average (within whatever allocation Porsche have agreed as part of VAG's overall target).

[SFO]

anonymous said:

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I don’t mean GTS , I mean the 911 GT2/3 RS models.

If demand for NA in 911 is not high, then Porsche want to preserve that demand for the more expensive ‘halo’ GT models.

Manual even available on Targa so certification can’t be that problematic or expensive. Manual must be had with sport chrono and is same price as PDK, so Porsche definitely protecting, if not enhancing, profit margins.

[Cheib]

Heathrow said:

I would imagine fleet CO2 averages are in the mix too. The smaller the number of manual and nasp cars produced, the better the overall fleet average (within whatever allocation Porsche have agreed as part of VAG's overall target).

Yup volumes of these cars are limited by how many EV’s/Hybrid’s they can sell.

[SFO]

anonymous said:

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The GT4 and Spyder are not true GT cars IMO as they don’t have the bonkers engine, heritage, and profit margins are lower than 911s

[Twinfan]

SFO said:

The GT4 and Spyder are not true GT cars IMO as they don’t have the bonkers engine, heritage, and profit margins are lower than 911s

Interesting viewpoint. They're designed and developed by the GT department so they're no less 'GT car' than anything else to me. It sounds like you're confusing 'GT car' with 'halo product'? Although you could argue that the GT4 and Spyder are halo products for the Cayster line rather than the whole of Porsche, like the 911 GT cars.