996 C4S damaged, anyone know the owner??

[TROOPER88]

Chaps
Copart have a Black 2002 996 C4S coupe, manual.

It is direct from an insurance company as a Cat N with rear end damage. From the pics the damage seems extremely minor indeed,

Did the car belong to anyone on here or does anyone know any more info?

Maybe best to PM me, I do have the reg number.

Many thanks

[ATM]

Moving on from Boxsters?

[TROOPER88]

ATM said:

Moving on from Boxsters?

haha, no, no, not at all,

I would have kept it.

It sold for silly money in the end. Why someone would pay that when you can get a clean title car for virtually the same price is beyond me

[ATM]

TROOPER88 said:

ATM said:

Moving on from Boxsters?

haha, no, no, not at all,

I would have kept it.

It sold for silly money in the end. Why someone would pay that when you can get a clean title car for virtually the same price is beyond me

Are you allowed to say how much?

[TROOPER88]

ATM said:

Are you allowed to say how much?

14.4k before fees and delivery

That would make it over 16k delivered

You can buy a clean one for not much more 👍

[ATM]

TROOPER88 said:

ATM said:

Are you allowed to say how much?

14.4k before fees and delivery

That would make it over 16k delivered

You can buy a clean one for not much more ??

Yeah

Sound enough logic there

Isn't it meant to be ball park 20% less - once fixed?

[TROOPER88]

ATM said:

Yeah

Sound enough logic there

Isn't it meant to be ball park 20% less - once fixed?

Insurance total loss vehicles such as this are usually worth 70% of clean title cars.

I would have bid up to 12k

The trouble with a car like that, you simply do not know what is wrong with it!!

Porsches are not cheap to put right

[TROOPER88]

ATM said:

Yeah

Sound enough logic there

Isn't it meant to be ball park 20% less - once fixed?

Are you someone who uses Boxa.net?

I am staying away from the site. Some of the grumpiest, most negative individuals I have ever come across!

[Orangecurry]

...and you've come here??

[TROOPER88]

Orangecurry said:

...and you've come here??

Been here since the start 🤣

[VonSenger]

TROOPER88 said:

Insurance total loss vehicles such as this are usually worth 70% of clean title cars.

I would have bid up to 12k

The trouble with a car like that, you simply do not know what is wrong with it!!

Porsches are not cheap to put right

I purchased a 996 c4s from Germany when they were about a year old. Looked to be a minor rear bump. When we stripped the rear down to repair it it was a mess. The bump had shunted the rear subframe an inch or so and cracked the gearbox, twisted the rear bulkhead and rear seat pan. I think the cost to repair was about £28k.
Lesson learned, there's usually a good reason the insurance company ran a mile.

[TROOPER88]

VonSenger said:

I purchased a 996 c4s from Germany when they were about a year old. Looked to be a minor rear bump. When we stripped the rear down to repair it it was a mess. The bump had shunted the rear subframe an inch or so and cracked the gearbox, twisted the rear bulkhead and rear seat pan. I think the cost to repair was about £28k.
Lesson learned, there's usually a good reason the insurance company ran a mile.

Nightmare

Sounds like it may have been doctored up.

This is the gamble of buying salvage unseen

[VonSenger]

TROOPER88 said:

VonSenger said:

I purchased a 996 c4s from Germany when they were about a year old. Looked to be a minor rear bump. When we stripped the rear down to repair it it was a mess. The bump had shunted the rear subframe an inch or so and cracked the gearbox, twisted the rear bulkhead and rear seat pan. I think the cost to repair was about £28k.
Lesson learned, there's usually a good reason the insurance company ran a mile.

Nightmare

Sounds like it may have been doctored up.

This is the gamble of buying salvage unseen

No, what happened was the plastic pu had faired remarkably well. The cross beam had pushed the engine forward ever so slightly, tweaking the entire rear. It was just enough to crack and crease important components.
When it was stripped there was no sign of tempering.
It's the result of a rear engined whack, there is little movement to absorb impact like a front engined crashed car.
Never again, it was a never ending nightmare

[TROOPER88]

VonSenger said:

No, what happened was the plastic pu had faired remarkably well. The cross beam had pushed the engine forward ever so slightly, tweaking the entire rear. It was just enough to crack and crease important components.
When it was stripped there was no sign of tempering.
It's the result of a rear engined whack, there is little movement to absorb impact like a front engined crashed car.
Never again, it was a never ending nightmare

You live and learn 👍

[ATM]

TROOPER88 said:

ATM said:

Yeah

Sound enough logic there

Isn't it meant to be ball park 20% less - once fixed?

Are you someone who uses Boxa.net?

I am staying away from the site. Some of the grumpiest, most negative individuals I have ever come across!

Yes I am. Not as much as this site. It can be a bit clicky on there but its a small world so most of the old timers know each other.

I did manage to borrow a fancy ECU diagnostic device from a complete stranger on there which helped me out massively. So I need to remain positive even if it is just for that only.

By and large I have reasonably thick skin so someone would need to do very well to upset me. It is just the internet after all so you need to be a bit forgiving. Its not like these are real people dealing with other sensibly minded humans is it?

[edc]

TROOPER88 said:

ATM said:

Yeah

Sound enough logic there

Isn't it meant to be ball park 20% less - once fixed?

Are you someone who uses Boxa.net?

I am staying away from the site. Some of the grumpiest, most negative individuals I have ever come across!

It's just a small less than handful of people who seem to have taken offence. I wouldnt worry about it.
I think most of them knew each other too.

[ATM]

VonSenger said:

TROOPER88 said:

VonSenger said:

I purchased a 996 c4s from Germany when they were about a year old. Looked to be a minor rear bump. When we stripped the rear down to repair it it was a mess. The bump had shunted the rear subframe an inch or so and cracked the gearbox, twisted the rear bulkhead and rear seat pan. I think the cost to repair was about £28k.
Lesson learned, there's usually a good reason the insurance company ran a mile.

Nightmare

Sounds like it may have been doctored up.

This is the gamble of buying salvage unseen

No, what happened was the plastic pu had faired remarkably well. The cross beam had pushed the engine forward ever so slightly, tweaking the entire rear. It was just enough to crack and crease important components.
When it was stripped there was no sign of tempering.
It's the result of a rear engined whack, there is little movement to absorb impact like a front engined crashed car.
Never again, it was a never ending nightmare

I'm mid way through a similar journey myself however I know the car well as I owned it before the crash. Porsche approved repair estimate for this was 17 grand minimum. So far I have spent about 1700 and it drives and has an MOT. Its not all done and dusted yet as the PDK gearbox is leaking clutch side fluid. Once I get it all running well then I'll invest some money in the bodywork. I guess my point is that it can be a bit of a gamble. First thing I had done was an alignment check and my car was all straight. Then I thought it was just simple bolt-ons only. If the gearbox had not sprung a leak it would have been plain sailing.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[TROOPER88]

ATM said:

I'm mid way through a similar journey myself however I know the car well as I owned it before the crash. Porsche approved repair estimate for this was 17 grand minimum. So far I have spent about 1700 and it drives and has an MOT. Its not all done and dusted yet as the PDK gearbox is leaking clutch side fluid. Once I get it all running well then I'll invest some money in the bodywork. I guess my point is that it can be a bit of a gamble. First thing I had done was an alignment check and my car was all straight. Then I thought it was just simple bolt-ons only. If the gearbox had not sprung a leak it would have been plain sailing.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Wow
Great work, very well done.

What area are you?

[ATM]

TROOPER88 said:

ATM said:

I'm mid way through a similar journey myself however I know the car well as I owned it before the crash. Porsche approved repair estimate for this was 17 grand minimum. So far I have spent about 1700 and it drives and has an MOT. Its not all done and dusted yet as the PDK gearbox is leaking clutch side fluid. Once I get it all running well then I'll invest some money in the bodywork. I guess my point is that it can be a bit of a gamble. First thing I had done was an alignment check and my car was all straight. Then I thought it was just simple bolt-ons only. If the gearbox had not sprung a leak it would have been plain sailing.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Wow
Great work, very well done.

What area are you?

Err I live in the UK.

[VonSenger]

It can sometimes workout. But it's the surprise that pop up that can sometimes bite hard. Trying to find a good used gearbox took me months and cost me a fortune.