Aston Martin/Mercedes
Discussion
Again from Pitpass but https://www.pitpass.com/66999/All-eyes-on-Mercedes...
My guess is the (former) leading figure in the sport is Eddie Jordan
My guess is the (former) leading figure in the sport is Eddie Jordan
carl_w said:
Again from Pitpass but https://www.pitpass.com/66999/All-eyes-on-Mercedes...
My guess is the (former) leading figure in the sport is Eddie Jordan
My guess would be Bernie, particularly bearing in mind its Pitpass,My guess is the (former) leading figure in the sport is Eddie Jordan
carl_w said:
Again from Pitpass but https://www.pitpass.com/66999/All-eyes-on-Mercedes...
My guess is the (former) leading figure in the sport is Eddie Jordan
My guess would be Bernie, particularly bearing in mind its Pitpass,My guess is the (former) leading figure in the sport is Eddie Jordan
DanielSan said:
It makes sense to a point, but with work only recently starting on the new Racing Point factory I can't see the reason to sell them, not without some serious guarantees for the team at least
Would depend who they're sold to, and why, and what role they would play in support of the main team.I reckon this developing situation concerning Toto, Stroll, AM and Mercedes is probably more complex and interwoven than we can judge from the outside by simply looking at individual happenings. None of which in isolation will necessarily make any obvious sense.
There is certainly no smoke without fire, theres a few interesting movements happening, Wolff, going upstairs at Daimler or going to work with Stroll, Berkshire Hathaway increasing their stake in Liberty to well above 10% (so active ownership in F1 and FE).. Bernie actively making noise.. Talk about a new spec series.. Top teams having the budget halved.. Interesting times
//j17 said:
Deesee said:
There is certainly no smoke without fire...
FFS this is F1. There's always a s
t load of smoke and very rarely is a fire ever found!Nothing here to see
There’s a lot going on, everyone is scrambling for position, 10yrs of decisions have been made in 10 weeks.
The article is a little contrived in that Mercedes have commented on the Vettel situation, for example.
There's definitely something going on with Wolff and Aston Martin but it's unclear what.
Now that the budget cap is agreed, an F1 team is a more attractive proposition. I don't think it's a coincidence that Williams is up for sale days after the budget cap has been ratified, for example.
It also makes sense for a budget-capped F1 to be less attractive to a company like Mercedes. They're winning now and can spend as much as they like to maintain that. When the money field is evened out, it could be harder so why not get out on a high and stick to engines alone?
Overall, I am more open to this as a possibility than I was a few weeks ago
There's definitely something going on with Wolff and Aston Martin but it's unclear what.
Now that the budget cap is agreed, an F1 team is a more attractive proposition. I don't think it's a coincidence that Williams is up for sale days after the budget cap has been ratified, for example.
It also makes sense for a budget-capped F1 to be less attractive to a company like Mercedes. They're winning now and can spend as much as they like to maintain that. When the money field is evened out, it could be harder so why not get out on a high and stick to engines alone?
Overall, I am more open to this as a possibility than I was a few weeks ago
"The word is that Lawrence Stroll is to sell Racing Point to Dmitry Mazepin, father of F2 racer Nikita, while the Canadian buys Mercedes which will then be renamed Aston Martin."
If this happens I wonder if Lance will get handed a championship winning car? If that happens then F1 is over as far as I am concerned.
If this happens I wonder if Lance will get handed a championship winning car? If that happens then F1 is over as far as I am concerned.
Joey Deacon said:
"The word is that Lawrence Stroll is to sell Racing Point to Dmitry Mazepin, father of F2 racer Nikita, while the Canadian buys Mercedes which will then be renamed Aston Martin."
If this happens I wonder if Lance will get handed a championship winning car? If that happens then F1 is over as far as I am concerned.
Why? He still wouldn't win the championship ... and I happen to think he's an OK driver and not the complete waste of space some do!If this happens I wonder if Lance will get handed a championship winning car? If that happens then F1 is over as far as I am concerned.
Mark-C said:
Why? He still wouldn't win the championship ... and I happen to think he's an OK driver and not the complete waste of space some do!
Agreed. You'd easily see Verstappen or Leclerc beat Stoll and they would probably also beat Perez over a season even if he was in an 'Aston Merc.' It wouldn't be good for the sport to have an 'OK' driver winning the title because his old man went and bought the best team.
Megaflow said:
Th8s rumour seems to have come about because Toto bought shares in Aston Martin.
Does that mean he is going to be team principle of Williams and Aston Martin at the same time, because he just bought shares in them again as well...
Nah, it came about long before he bought shares in AM, and for different reasons I think.Does that mean he is going to be team principle of Williams and Aston Martin at the same time, because he just bought shares in them again as well...
He's doing 'something' not at all direct in order to position himself for the new corporate future of F1 and how it can be applied to external brands. Something to do with Buddy Stroll and frankly I think it extends beyond simply slapping the AM brand on a mid field F1 team.
Williams is separate and interesting - there has to be more to his small buy in than is known. If others start to buy little chunks I'd guess at a salami tactics takeover.
Evangelion said:
TwentyFive said:
... It wouldn't be good for the sport to have an 'OK' driver winning the title because his old man went and bought the best team.
'OK' drivers quite often win the title if they happen to be sitting in the best car so how is that any different?How does an only 'OK' driver get in to the best car, and then also beat his team mate?
I can't think of a team that's had the best car, put an 'OK' driver in it and then a sub 'OK' driver in the second one.
Evangelion said:
'OK' drivers quite often win the title if they happen to be sitting in the best car so how is that any different?
Can you name one? It is totally different because most drivers in F1 earn the right to drive the best car through their achievements in F1 in other teams.
Simply getting the seat because you father bought the team is completely different and not based on ability.
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