Hum, interesting proposal
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Quick visit to the folks this weekend for a 2m visit and Dad made an interesting proposal.
He was talking about getting another 911 to go with his Macan when I mentioned I really fancied a 997 GT3 but they are probably a bit out of range. He is fancying a 991 but then he proposed me selling my 1989 3.2 carrera (28K miles FPSH etc) and us sharing a GT3, then when he cant drive anymore (he is 79 !) I would take full ownership.
While I would always miss the 3.2, I am intrigued to think about it. A 997 GT3 I drove at Silverstone really felt raw like the 3.2 (just much faster).
Humm, first world problems or what.
I love my Dad to bits, but he has no interest in cars whatsoever, apart from how many Chickens, Sheep and Goats you can squeeze in one. Usually an estate, usually 15 years old. My son is similar, 18 and could not give two hoots about a car. My 992 is so embarrassing to my 16 year old daughter to the point she will not go in it.
Embrace it, you are lucky that you and your old man have a shared interest and it sounds a no-brainer!
I have to be content with praising the glorious plumage of his latest chicken over a few bottles of Newcastle Brown ale, rather than debating the price of 21” 335 rears.....
Embrace it, you are lucky that you and your old man have a shared interest and it sounds a no-brainer!
I have to be content with praising the glorious plumage of his latest chicken over a few bottles of Newcastle Brown ale, rather than debating the price of 21” 335 rears.....
dgswk said:
I love my Dad to bits, but he has no interest in cars whatsoever, apart from how many Chickens, Sheep and Goats you can squeeze in one. Usually an estate, usually 15 years old. My son is similar, 18 and could not give two hoots about a car. My 992 is so embarrassing to my 16 year old daughter to the point she will not go in it.
Embrace it, you are lucky that you and your old man have a shared interest and it sounds a no-brainer!
I have to be content with praising the glorious plumage of his latest chicken over a few bottles of Newcastle Brown ale, rather than debating the price of 21” 335 rears.....
I'm in the same boat! My dad couldn't care less about cars and has made do with my "hand me downs" since about 2010. He didn't want the last one because he didn't like the black headliner so until recently he's been driving an ancient golf gti I bought in my 20s. To the op, as the above poster says, if it works for both of you I say go for itEmbrace it, you are lucky that you and your old man have a shared interest and it sounds a no-brainer!
I have to be content with praising the glorious plumage of his latest chicken over a few bottles of Newcastle Brown ale, rather than debating the price of 21” 335 rears.....
It’s an interesting proposition, although it does presumably rely on you selling your 3.2 Carrera.
If, as you say, it’s an ‘89 G50 Coupe with only 28k mls, it’s likely to fetch a worthwhile figure, as the market for the best ‘aircooleds’ still seems to be in good health.
What’s the spec?
If, as you say, it’s an ‘89 G50 Coupe with only 28k mls, it’s likely to fetch a worthwhile figure, as the market for the best ‘aircooleds’ still seems to be in good health.
What’s the spec?
I am in the Dad position here. 3 sons but only one car nut. Me and the lad share all our toys including a co-owned Porsche. Two of the other cars in my fleet used to be his. It is a lovely shared experience, I love swopping the cars around and sharing thoughts and experiences. I have more buying power but hopefully that will change over time and eventually some of the cars he cherished in his youth will come back to him. (Not to soon I hope). Something I regret, the classic “ should never have sold that feeling”.
We do track days as well as Euro trips sometimes sharing the drive sometimes in two cars. It is real quality time just go for it.
We do track days as well as Euro trips sometimes sharing the drive sometimes in two cars. It is real quality time just go for it.
I grew up a car nut because of my dad. We ended up sharing a few Boxsters.
It's a double edged sword now he's gone.
Picking up a new car for the first time without him was difficult, on the other hand going for a drive kind of keeps him around a bit.
I'd say go for it, it'll give you both good moments - hopefully!!
It's a double edged sword now he's gone.
Picking up a new car for the first time without him was difficult, on the other hand going for a drive kind of keeps him around a bit.
I'd say go for it, it'll give you both good moments - hopefully!!
AinsleyB said:
Do it. When he is gone all you will have are memories. So what a great way to remember him by. Life is way too short to spend it thinking what if.
Good point, but I should have added, that the 3.2 Carrera I currently have used to be his, that i bought 15 years ago when he sold it to buy his 997 Carrera 2.Could I put up with not having a 911 in the garage for the next 5 years ish, and would I always regret getting rid of a truly classic 911 to have a 997 GT3
decisions decisions.
Koln-RS said:
It’s an interesting proposition, although it does presumably rely on you selling your 3.2 Carrera.
If, as you say, it’s an ‘89 G50 Coupe with only 28k mls, it’s likely to fetch a worthwhile figure, as the market for the best ‘aircooleds’ still seems to be in good health.
What’s the spec?
Red 3.2 Carrera sport, FPSH, 28k miles and in good condition, all original.If, as you say, it’s an ‘89 G50 Coupe with only 28k mls, it’s likely to fetch a worthwhile figure, as the market for the best ‘aircooleds’ still seems to be in good health.
What’s the spec?
Current agreed value is £55K
Its just, this car was in the family in about 1992 so it has real history for us. But, but but !
Arrrgggh.
RSVP911 said:
Gary C said:
Red 3.2 Carrera sport, FPSH, 28k miles and in good condition, all original.
Current agreed value is £55K
Its just, this car was in the family in about 1992 so it has real history for us. But, but but !
Arrrgggh.
G50 ? - thxCurrent agreed value is £55K
Its just, this car was in the family in about 1992 so it has real history for us. But, but but !
Arrrgggh.
Its one of the last of
f the line. It actually has the 964 plastic insert around the fuel filler (which is apparently a significant rust trap on older cars) and the windscreen rubber is a 964 part.
It originally had the reg A911RAT and always wondered if the original owner was rich enough to pay a premium to get it back, but that number sits on an 89 Turbo Cab these days so he is probably happy with his current wheels.
Edited by Gary C on Monday 1st June 21:38
Nice!
I would say 'condition' is the crucial factor - 'good' covers a multitude of possibilities - and 'tin worm' will be the main, often hidden, concern. But, if it's genuinely immaculate, then you may be significantly undervaluing it. 'Low mileage and FPSH' attract big premiums ,
If you did decide to sell, it could be a good candidate for the Collecting Cars auction site, to get the optimum return at the moment. Collectors still seem to be hungry for the best aircooled 911s.
I would say 'condition' is the crucial factor - 'good' covers a multitude of possibilities - and 'tin worm' will be the main, often hidden, concern. But, if it's genuinely immaculate, then you may be significantly undervaluing it. 'Low mileage and FPSH' attract big premiums ,
If you did decide to sell, it could be a good candidate for the Collecting Cars auction site, to get the optimum return at the moment. Collectors still seem to be hungry for the best aircooled 911s.
g7jhp said:
Keep the 3.2 Carrera, you'll never find another in that condition.
That could be the dilemma. The best of the last of the 3.2 Carreras are, as has been said, very desirable, and no doubt the prestige dealers would love to get their hands on yours, sitting in their showroom with a price beginning with at least a 7, I’m sure.
But, for a car that has been in the family for over 28 years there must also be significant sentimental value to consider.
Having said all that, it must be doing less than 900 mls per year, so is there a case for considering something that may get more use?
Worth giving careful thought, but definitely don’t part with the 3.2 too cheaply.
Edited by Geneve on Monday 1st June 23:37
bigmowley said:
I am in the Dad position here. 3 sons but only one car nut. Me and the lad share all our toys including a co-owned Porsche. Two of the other cars in my fleet used to be his. It is a lovely shared experience, I love swopping the cars around and sharing thoughts and experiences. I have more buying power but hopefully that will change over time and eventually some of the cars he cherished in his youth will come back to him. (Not to soon I hope). Something I regret, the classic “ should never have sold that feeling”.
We do track days as well as Euro trips sometimes sharing the drive sometimes in two cars. It is real quality time just go for it.
A position I hope I can be in when my 3 are old enough to drive! Fantastic.We do track days as well as Euro trips sometimes sharing the drive sometimes in two cars. It is real quality time just go for it.
Gary C said:
Red 3.2 Carrera sport, FPSH, 28k miles and in good condition, all original.
Current agreed value is £55K
Its just, this car was in the family in about 1992 so it has real history for us. But, but but !
Arrrgggh.
Maybe slightly undervalued there. I have something very similar, a 1985 GR with 27k miles. I'm only the 2nd owner. Agreed value is 60k although I reckon they would fetch more. The trade still seems quite buoyant despite the current climate.Current agreed value is £55K
Its just, this car was in the family in about 1992 so it has real history for us. But, but but !
Arrrgggh.
The dilemma is you have an almost unique car that's been in the family for so long. As nice as a GT3 is (I have a 991.2), there's nothing quite like an air-cooled. A GT3 is too fast for the road whereas the 3.2 offers a more rewarding drive at sane speeds.
I think you'll miss it!
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