transferring stocks and shares isa
transferring stocks and shares isa
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petemurphy

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10,914 posts

212 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Hi - if i have a stocks and shares isa but have only used 8k, can i set up a new stocks and shares isa with someone else and use the remaining 12k or do i have to transfer the 8k and isa first? how long do they normally take to transfer? thanks

JulianPH

10,084 posts

143 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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If you opened (or have put money in) the ISA in the current tax year you would have to transfer it.

If you opened it in a previous tax year and have not put any money into this tax year you can leave it where it is and open a new one.

The rule is that you can only contribute to one S&S ISA in any given tax year.

The transfer time process varies with each provider, most do it in a week or two, some can take a few months. You generally stay in the market until just before the transfer completes though.




anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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OP might wish to consider having the existing ISA investments "re-registered" from former provider to new provider to avoid any sale of the existing investments, and then top up with the new provider.

The availability of this is likely to depend on the particular providers involved and the nature of the investments.

petemurphy

Original Poster:

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212 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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thanks both

aka_kerrly

12,505 posts

239 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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rockin said:
OP might wish to consider having the existing ISA investments "re-registered" from former provider to new provider to avoid any sale of the existing investments, and then top up with the new provider.

The availability of this is likely to depend on the particular providers involved and the nature of the investments.
yes
Surprised Julian didn't mention this.

OP check with new provider what their transfer IN fees are as these can vary between platforms, also worth checking if your existing provider(if it's a platform they maybe using a 3rd party holdings firm which is actually the same as your new provider which further streamlines re registration) and if you are using a IFA keep an eye on any additional fees that might be added.


JulianPH

10,084 posts

143 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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aka_kerrly said:
rockin said:
OP might wish to consider having the existing ISA investments "re-registered" from former provider to new provider to avoid any sale of the existing investments, and then top up with the new provider.

The availability of this is likely to depend on the particular providers involved and the nature of the investments.
yes
Surprised Julian didn't mention this.

OP check with new provider what their transfer IN fees are as these can vary between platforms, also worth checking if your existing provider(if it's a platform they maybe using a 3rd party holdings firm which is actually the same as your new provider which further streamlines re registration) and if you are using a IFA keep an eye on any additional fees that might be added.
An ISA transfer from one provider to another does not have any tax/contribution impact regardless of whether the existing investments within it are sold to cash or re-registered.

It all happens within the ISA wrapper itself. smile


aka_kerrly

12,505 posts

239 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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True, I was thinking in terms of selling your existing holdings and repurchasing potentially incurs initial fund manager charges , granted it may only be 0.5% but a cost nonetheless.

JulianPH

10,084 posts

143 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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aka_kerrly said:
True, I was thinking in terms of selling your existing holdings and repurchasing potentially incurs initial fund manager charges , granted it may only be 0.5% but a cost nonetheless.
Most funds these days do not have an initial charge, but if you have one that does then, yes, this is a good point! smile


millen

688 posts

115 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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JulianPH said:
If you opened (or have put money in) the ISA in the current tax year you would have to transfer it.

The transfer time process varies with each provider, most do it in a week or two, some can take a few months. You generally stay in the market until just before the transfer completes though.
That's helpful - I didn't know this. I'd assumed it's more common to liquidate holdings before initiating a transfer. Would the transferring ISA tell me when they're about to liquidate - I'm nervous (probably unjustifiably!) about losing control of the timing, but then I'm thinking in terms of stocks & shares ISAs which inevitably will be more volatile than funds.

Must say, had a hideous experience with Barclays ISA a couple of years ago when they still managed to take two months to make a partial transfer of cash to another ISA. Not keen to repeat the experience but looks like I will have to just to get money out of Barclays' expensive clutches (and a deplorable platform that times out after just 5 mins inactivity).

JulianPH

10,084 posts

143 months

Thursday 4th June 2020
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millen said:
That's helpful - I didn't know this. I'd assumed it's more common to liquidate holdings before initiating a transfer. Would the transferring ISA tell me when they're about to liquidate - I'm nervous (probably unjustifiably!) about losing control of the timing, but then I'm thinking in terms of stocks & shares ISAs which inevitably will be more volatile than funds.

Must say, had a hideous experience with Barclays ISA a couple of years ago when they still managed to take two months to make a partial transfer of cash to another ISA. Not keen to repeat the experience but looks like I will have to just to get money out of Barclays' expensive clutches (and a deplorable platform that times out after just 5 mins inactivity).
Unfortunately not. They just do things in their own time frames and don't let you know what is happening. Basically you cease to become important to them.

Barclays are, indeed, a nightmare when it comes to this.

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