YouTube censorship?
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298 posts

86 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Quick experiment. Think of anything to tap into the YouTube search engine and see it autofill what it thinks you are searching for. Now tap in Stefan Molyneux (has 982K followers) and see what happens. For me and the other computers/phones in the house it does not autofill. It is not as though his name isn't unusual.

Guessing his views don't match the Google narrative.

Oakey

27,970 posts

240 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Who cares?

Mammasaid

5,351 posts

121 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Stefan Basil Molyneux born September 24, 1966, is a far-right, white nationalist Canadian podcaster and YouTuber who is known for his promotion of scientific racism and white supremacist views.

I wonder why it's not coming up confused

voyds9

8,490 posts

307 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Oakey said:
Who cares?
Guess you're still on the approved list then.

Dan_1981

17,998 posts

223 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Unsorted said:
Guessing his views don't match the Google narrative.
As a private company isn't that up to them?

voyds9

8,490 posts

307 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Dan_1981 said:
As a private company isn't that up to them?
They are indeed a private company and free to control what goes on their site. However, that then makes them a publisher with lots of legal ramifications.
They claim to be a platform with significantly different and less legal obligations over the content. A platform shouldn't be able to control what goes on their site. That is one of the important differences.

At least that is my understanding, no doubt someone will be along to correct me

anonymous-user

78 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Unsorted said:
Now tap in Stefan Molyneux (has 982K followers) .
Who's that......Googles name

'' Stefan Molyneux is a far-right, white nationalist Canadian podcaster and YouTuber who is known for his promotion of scientific racism and white supremacist views.''

And you are proud to post on here telling everyone how much of a big racist you are?

Fulmentaljack3t

111 posts

130 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
Who's that......Googles name

'' Stefan Molyneux is a far-right, white nationalist Canadian podcaster and YouTuber who is known for his promotion of scientific racism and white supremacist views.''

And you are proud to post on here telling everyone how much of a big racist you are?
I thought that as well.

rodericb

8,586 posts

150 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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There are some chinese phrases which get automatically deleted: https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/26/21270290/youtub...

Oh whoops, that was all a silly mistake we'd better walk that one back....: https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/27/21271611/youtub...

yeah blah blah private platform but these companies do get some sort of dispensation from the US government to operate as they do. If they were oil companies or telecommunications companies they would have been broken up already.

rscott

17,071 posts

215 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Similar situation to Tommy Robinson - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/to...

Youtube consider the poster has breached their terms, so restricts access. Completely up to them - it's their platform.


Surprised you haven't mentioned that Paypal no longer wish to deal with him and MailChimp have kicked him off their platform too.

Dan_1981

17,998 posts

223 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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voyds9 said:
Dan_1981 said:
As a private company isn't that up to them?
They are indeed a private company and free to control what goes on their site. However, that then makes them a publisher with lots of legal ramifications.
They claim to be a platform with significantly different and less legal obligations over the content. A platform shouldn't be able to control what goes on their site. That is one of the important differences.

At least that is my understanding, no doubt someone will be along to correct me
I'm no expert either, I guess their response would be that the content is their to be watched, but they are not actively helping people find it - ie auto completing the searches.

98elise

31,587 posts

185 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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voyds9 said:
Dan_1981 said:
As a private company isn't that up to them?
They are indeed a private company and free to control what goes on their site. However, that then makes them a publisher with lots of legal ramifications.
They claim to be a platform with significantly different and less legal obligations over the content. A platform shouldn't be able to control what goes on their site. That is one of the important differences.

At least that is my understanding, no doubt someone will be along to correct me
Of course they can, they are a private company that offer a service. They choose what goes on there, and you choose to use it or not.


166 MM Barchetta

719 posts

81 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Fulmentaljack3t said:
The Spruce Goose said:
Who's that......Googles name

'' Stefan Molyneux is a far-right, white nationalist Canadian podcaster and YouTuber who is known for his promotion of scientific racism and white supremacist views.''

And you are proud to post on here telling everyone how much of a big racist you are?
I thought that as well.
Good grief rolleyes

rscott

17,071 posts

215 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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voyds9 said:
Dan_1981 said:
As a private company isn't that up to them?
They are indeed a private company and free to control what goes on their site. However, that then makes them a publisher with lots of legal ramifications.
They claim to be a platform with significantly different and less legal obligations over the content. A platform shouldn't be able to control what goes on their site. That is one of the important differences.

At least that is my understanding, no doubt someone will be along to correct me
Cool. So they can ignore copyright claims, can allow Islamic terrorism recruiting videos, snuff movies, etc, if they're just a platform.

mx5nut

5,404 posts

106 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Oakey said:
Who cares?
Snowflakes.

klootzak

683 posts

240 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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Unsorted said:
Quick experiment. Think of anything to tap into the YouTube search engine and see it autofill what it thinks you are searching for. Now tap in Stefan Molyneux (has 982K followers) and see what happens. For me and the other computers/phones in the house it does not autofill. It is not as though his name isn't unusual.

Guessing his views don't match the Google narrative.
I get his channel and a whole list of his videos listed. Turns out he's a faux-intellectual oaf who can't structure a proper argument about anything. What a waste of time.

Thanks, that's my YouTube search results fked for a month or more.

k




anonymous-user

78 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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mx5nut said:
Snowflakes.
i'm far from a snowflake, but wouldn't be trying to defend someone who has ''"a perverse fixation on race and IQ".

klootzak

683 posts

240 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2020
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rscott said:
Similar situation to Tommy Robinson - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/to...

Youtube consider the poster has breached their terms, so restricts access. Completely up to them - it's their platform.


Surprised you haven't mentioned that Paypal no longer wish to deal with him and MailChimp have kicked him off their platform too.
Wow, I got a massive list of his videos too.

Difference is, he's not a faux-intellectual. He's just a racist .

I really need to be more discerning about the links and searches I follow from here.

k

borrani72

460 posts

86 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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Unsorted said:
Quick experiment. Think of anything to tap into the YouTube search engine and see it autofill what it thinks you are searching for. Now tap in Stefan Molyneux (has 982K followers) and see what happens. For me and the other computers/phones in the house it does not autofill. It is not as though his name isn't unusual.

Guessing his views don't match the Google narrative.
Unsorted, I wouldn't waste your time if I were you.

Sounds like he most-likely appeals to people who use hatred of others to make-up for their own insecurities and inadequacies.

You know the type - perhaps not quite as clever as they think they are.



If you are bored, YouTube has far superior content to this.

anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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If YouTube don’t want people searching for him or to be associated with him, why not just ban him from YouTube?

There’s a debate about this on one of the climate threads yesterday where YouTube removed the Michael Moore film ‘Planet of the Humans’ due to “copyright infringement”. Apparently certain blogs and websites are labelled unreliable by search engines and are stopping to appear in searches.

Some social media apps like twitter are starting to censor blogs and websites known to be unreliable sources of information also as part of their fact checking policy they’ve called out trump a few rimes recently. Facebook now coming under pressure from users and employees for not doing more of the same.

It’s all part of these apps not wanting to be used for spreading misinformation and fake news. Obviously though the apps themselves have to get involved in deciding what’s fake news or what’s racist etc.

My view is that it’s totally up to YouTube (or whatever app or social media platform or website etc) what they have on there. It’s their business but they have to tread a fine line as if they become known for being overzealous with the censorship, people might go somewhere else.

Every app or social media platform or forum has its own rules about what the owners want it used for, if you don’t like them, don’t use it.