DB9 Manifold cat delete, is there an insurance impact?
DB9 Manifold cat delete, is there an insurance impact?
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Neil.LK

Original Poster:

21 posts

101 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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Hi, I was thinking of changing the manifolds in my DB9 to remove the misfire, engine failure risk.
Would this have to be disclosed to my insurance company?
If so has anyone any experience of insurance costs involved?
Thanks

Neil1300r

5,771 posts

208 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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I always declare everything. I've even declared additional factory features.
Makes no difference to premiums in my experience

LTP

3,125 posts

142 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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I'd echo Neil. While the rules on disclosure have changed (in the UK at least), in my experience all insurance companies will look for a reason not to pay. If you've declared "no modifications from factory spec" (or they've or the broker have put it in the proposal forms and you signed it) then you've given them a potential reason. Before you do the mod I'd be inclined to talk to them, explain your reason (reliability, not performance) and gauge their reaction.

Just my $0.02

IanV12VSRs

2,749 posts

185 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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I agree. Let them know what you are doing. When I did my cat delete advised my insurers and it made no difference to the premium.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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Neil.LK said:
Hi, I was thinking of changing the manifolds in my DB9 to remove the misfire, engine failure risk.
Would this have to be disclosed to my insurance company?
If so has anyone any experience of insurance costs involved?
Thanks
Unless they removed the manifolds and went looking for the cats they’d never know, but to answer the question, after I had mine done I did tell the insurer and it made no difference to the premium.

Neil.LK

Original Poster:

21 posts

101 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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Thanks everybody for your comments, very helpful

leef44

5,199 posts

183 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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This is the bit I get confused with.

I thought a cat delete strictly does not pass an MOT which means it is not roadworthy which means insurance company should not cover and so you cannot by vehicle excise duty (road tax or whatever it's called nowadays) confused

Neil1300r

5,771 posts

208 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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leef44 said:
This is the bit I get confused with.

I thought a cat delete strictly does not pass an MOT which means it is not roadworthy which means insurance company should not cover and so you cannot by vehicle excise duty (road tax or whatever it's called nowadays) confused
If it passes the emissions test at the time of the MoT it's fine.

sidewaysste

105 posts

215 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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Technically no it isn't fine. If a vehicle was fitted with cats at manufacturer then it must have them at time of the MOT, regardless of whether or not it was subject to a CAT test originally.

Of course identifying a missing cat can be quite tricky, especially as the MOT tester is not allowed to remove any undertrays or sheilds.

leef44

5,199 posts

183 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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Thanks for explaining so there is a "loophole"

crispyj

107 posts

197 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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Apparently removal off the primary cats will not push the emissions over , if you keep the 600 cell secondary’s.

gs1

25 posts

192 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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Would people mind sharing which insurance company’s don’t mind, or increase their prices, when people remove their cats?

Thanks

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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Aviva - no change to premium

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 5th June 23:24

cornershop

2,150 posts

226 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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Alan and Thomas have said zero premium impact.