Vintage Heuer Help
Vintage Heuer Help
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jimmy7

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687 posts

229 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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I have been browsing for a vintage Heuer watch for sometime now and have come across something I am interested in. However it has a few details I am unsure of.

It has a pretty basic description, with what I believe to be a few mistakes in it. It is described as an 1980 watch, but some research suggests its a little later. But I am unsure if the movement and caseback are correct - are there any experts here who can help me out, some photos:







Thanks in advance.

Mr Pointy

12,757 posts

181 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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I'm not a Heuer expert but that caseback doesn't look like it's from the 80s. It's virtually unmarked.

Kettmark

923 posts

175 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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Very similar to the Porsche Design Orfina from the 70's.
I've never seen a tag like that before.
What sort of asking price does it have?

AlexC1981

5,532 posts

239 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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The dial lume looks to have aged more than the lume on the hands. That can happen sometimes, but perhaps have a look at some other pictures of the same type of watch.

It could be recently built out of spare parts. That wouldn't bother me particularly, if I liked the watch and the price was right.

richthebike

1,753 posts

159 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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Its a Pasadena

Podie

46,647 posts

297 months

Friday 5th June 2020
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richthebike said:
Its a Pasadena
Agreed. Here’s mine.



Closely linked to the 7750 Montreal as well.


nikaiyo2

5,673 posts

217 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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Not so sure it is.

The only Pasadena with “Tachymeter” written on the scale has the Lemania movement- I think.

Also shouldn’t the case back have engraving on it showing the model number?

jimmy7

Original Poster:

687 posts

229 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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nikaiyo2 said:
Not so sure it is.

The only Pasadena with “Tachymeter” written on the scale has the Lemania movement- I think.

Also shouldn’t the case back have engraving on it showing the model number?
Agreed - I believe it is a Lemania 510-501 (based on the dial) from some research but I am far from an expert. However, the movement doesn’t look correct and I am not sure about the back either.

As others have said it’s not too important to me, as I like the look and it’s well priced compared to others, but it’s still a lump of money and wanted to find out more if I could.

richthebike

1,753 posts

159 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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Agreed. Its a post '83 Lemania layout. Not so sure on caseback.

Technically this makes it a 510 ref not a Pasadena, but its still basically the same watch.

Calibre 11 have an overview.

nikaiyo2

5,673 posts

217 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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jimmy7 said:
Agreed - I believe it is a Lemania 510-501 (based on the dial) from some research but I am far from an expert. However, the movement doesn’t look correct and I am not sure about the back either.

As others have said it’s not too important to me, as I like the look and it’s well priced compared to others, but it’s still a lump of money and wanted to find out more if I could.
Maybe post on Calibre11 forum see what they say. Pretty sure that the movement shown in the photo is a 7750, the rotor is completely wrong for a 5100 and don’t the 5100 watches have the little aircraft thing on one of the hands? If you have a higher res photo the 7750 is stamped and you would be able to see it in that photo.

Don’t get me wrong I think the parts are real but I don’t think it is “right.”

What worries me most is the “it’s quite well priced” does the seller know that there is something a bit fishy?

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/heuer/pasadena-pvd-vint... Looks right enough for decent money how does “yours” compare price wise?

jimmy7

Original Poster:

687 posts

229 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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Thanks for your help.

The only I have seen is just under £1500 - so probably below market price. I am trying to find some history of it from the retailer but nothing back currently.

andy_s

19,785 posts

281 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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Hey Jimmy, it's definitely a 7750 [so a 750.501 rather than a 510.501]. On the Lemania 5100 you have a minute and second chrono hand on the center spindle and also the top subdial isn't seconds but 24hr:

My Lemania, note the 12 o'clock subdial.



I'm not very up on the 7750 ones, but OnTheDash & Calibre11.com have an excellent library on these and others. Oh - here you go - https://www.calibre11.com/ultimate-guide-heuer-pas...