Gut health, anyone else finding this interesting?
Gut health, anyone else finding this interesting?
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tight fart

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3,580 posts

302 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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There seems to be a lot in the news about gut health lately, anyone finding it interesting?
There was a program about poo transplants recently that got me listening.
It seems like science has overlooked one of our most important “organs” for years.

SAS Tom

3,754 posts

203 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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It has been ignored really for a long time. A Gastrointestinal nurse explained it well to me once. It’s not as much of an enticing subject for trainee doctors compared to something like cancer and so there aren’t as many about because it isn’t where the money is.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

253 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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SAS Tom said:
It has been ignored really for a long time. A Gastrointestinal nurse explained it well to me once. It’s not as much of an enticing subject for trainee doctors compared to something like cancer and so there aren’t as many about because it isn’t where the money is.
Sums it up really. Seems there aren’t that many people who can understand the nervous system and the effect on the intestines either. This has huge effects on people’s effect to make decsisive decisions apparently with some kind of feedback loop from the vagus nerve ,

Fattyfat

3,310 posts

225 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Irony with the OP's user name?? I did lol.

Gut health is a vastly overlooked area.

sgtBerbatov

2,597 posts

110 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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I watched something where they were on about how porridge improved gut health over time. For the most part i felt better for eating porridge in the morning because of it.

oddman

4,247 posts

281 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Two dimensions to this both poorly understood

Firstly gut microbiome - may be hugely influential on health eg. risk of obesity diabetes etc.

Secondly the gut/brain axis. The gut has a much richer nerve supply than it 'needs' to be a food breakdown and absorption system. There is a theory that brain diseases such as Parkinsons may be caused by toxic entities migrating up the vagus nerve.

The two may interact to some extent. The phrase 'gut feeling' may turn out to have a biological basis.

tuffer

9,009 posts

296 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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4D Pharma doing some interesting work in this space at the moment and have several clinical trials underway with promising early results and serious investment from some bigger players.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Yes, it is interesting and yes the general western diet knackers it right up

Lots to learn about it, but the general principle of a broad diet of natural foodstuffs as close to raw as sensible appears to be a good starting point

Skyedriver

23,394 posts

311 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Has the OP's name anything to do with this question?

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

253 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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oddman said:
Two dimensions to this both poorly understood

Firstly gut microbiome - may be hugely influential on health eg. risk of obesity diabetes etc.

Secondly the gut/brain axis. The gut has a much richer nerve supply than it 'needs' to be a food breakdown and absorption system. There is a theory that brain diseases such as Parkinsons may be caused by toxic entities migrating up the vagus nerve.

The two may interact to some extent. The phrase 'gut feeling' may turn out to have a biological basis.
Vagus nerve controls the fight or flight doesn’t it? I was reading a pdf recently , it’s now disappeared Offline , about depressed vagus nerve activity in mental health, alcoholics, Etc very interesting. It would appear That someone in that ‘state’ cannot make a reasoned descision. You do wonder if as someone said, cheap refined carb processed food makes things worse.

mcelliott

10,492 posts

210 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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As someone who battles with chronic anxiety, I can say from first hand experience the link between mood and gut health. I've recently started drinking kombucha tea which has helped immensely, along with the usual probiotics and digestive enzyme tablets. I'd be interested in learning a lot more though.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

253 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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mcelliott said:
As someone who battles with chronic anxiety, I can say from first hand experience the link between mood and gut health. I've recently started drinking kombucha tea which has helped immensely, along with the usual probiotics and digestive enzyme tablets. I'd be interested in learning a lot more though.
All explained here. It’s good reading


https://blog.daveasprey.com/tone-vagus-nerve-hack-...

mcelliott

10,492 posts

210 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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markcoznottz said:
All explained here. It’s good reading


https://blog.daveasprey.com/tone-vagus-nerve-hack-...
Thanks, that looks very interesting - will have a proper read tomorrow. One thing I'll also add that has helped me and my digestive system is sea swimming, in very cold water, and learning the art of breathing properly all over again. It's been quite a revelation.