Buy a car from us- and we charge you admin
Buy a car from us- and we charge you admin
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crankedup

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25,764 posts

272 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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Why do traders do this, I had got myself 75% into buying a used car and then read the T&C of the dealership. It informs me they charge an admin cost on every purchase. ps off, that’s another lost sale for them, so why do they persist with this nonsense ?

jjr1

3,041 posts

289 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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You can't have been very serious about buying from them as the admin charge is a non issue. You negotiate a price that you are happy with, regardless of the admin charge and just buy it. Simples.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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If I really wanted the car I’d probably negotiate. But it irritates me on principle. I don’t go in to John Lewis to buy a new TV and get charged an admin fee. It’s just daft, make every car £xxx more expensive rather than charging an admin fee. No-one wants to pay a fee for the privilege of being able to buy something.

stevemcs

10,263 posts

122 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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Again it irritates but if its £1000 cheaper than any other garage and is the ideal car then i'd just pay it.

Frimley111R

19,140 posts

263 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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Yeah but just watch them add it on after.

I agree with the OP. I bought a car last year and told them straight off not to take the piss with their stupid admin fee bks. It's just another way to milk money from customers. It's as bad as having a service charge when you're out for a meal. Honestly if it's not part of the main bill just let me know and I'll pop into the kitchen and get it myself. Everyone sort of accepts it even though they hate it.

Wilmslowboy

4,760 posts

235 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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The reason is so they can quote a lower price and be closer to the top of the autotrader listing.

Suggest you ask them if they comply with the 'motor industry code of practice'

https://www.themotorombudsman.org/wp-content/uploa...

said:

1.3 Any advertisements will objectively promote vehicle models based upon relevant and verifiable features, including the purchase price.
1.4 The price quoted for a vehicle should be the ‘on the road’ price for which you can buy the vehicle.

crankedup

Original Poster:

25,764 posts

272 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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jjr1 said:
You can't have been very serious about buying from them as the admin charge is a non issue. You negotiate a price that you are happy with, regardless of the admin charge and just buy it. Simples.
But why do they conduct their business in such a way that it pisses off a potential buyer from the outset? Seriously, I see a car that catches my attention as a possible purchase, then notice they charge an ‘admin fee’ which immediately irritates me. Why don’t they simply screen price the car that would normally include their ‘business costs and profit’?

crankedup

Original Poster:

25,764 posts

272 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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ajap1979 said:
If I really wanted the car I’d probably negotiate. But it irritates me on principle. I don’t go in to John Lewis to buy a new TV and get charged an admin fee. It’s just daft, make every car £xxx more expensive rather than charging an admin fee. No-one wants to pay a fee for the privilege of being able to buy something.
Exactly!

colinrob

1,199 posts

280 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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I am lookIng for a car, as soon as it mentions admin fee I am no longer interested

DoubleD

22,154 posts

137 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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colinrob said:
I am lookIng for a car, as soon as it mentions admin fee I am no longer interested
Why?

CRA1G

7,239 posts

224 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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As of next week Autotrader have changed it's add settings which ALL traders MUST comply to,so if any fees do apply it will show at the beginning of the advert...

DoubleD

22,154 posts

137 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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CRA1G said:
As of next week Autotrader have changed it's add settings which ALL traders MUST comply to,so if any fees do apply it will show at the beginning of the advert...
Good. You then add that fee (£99 seems common) to the cost of the car, if the price is still good then buy it.

mike74

3,687 posts

161 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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I've never really understood routine ''admin'' fees in many forms business.

The latest one I've come across is builders charging ''Preliminary Fees''... I can understand the concept of prelims if there are any one off, upfront costs the builder has to incur prior to commencing work on an individual project, costs which are specific to that project, but charging prelims just on the basis of covering their fixed costs for being a building firm (i.e. office, van, phone line, tea bags, daily copy of the Sun etc)... nope sorry, I just can't get my head around that.

Mark V GTD

3,134 posts

153 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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DoubleD said:
Why?
For me it just says that he seller is pursuing a slightly devious sales method by adopting this policy. I would look elsewhere.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

137 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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Mark V GTD said:
DoubleD said:
Why?
For me it just says that he seller is pursuing a slightly devious sales method by adopting this policy. I would look elsewhere.
But obviously not if the fee is clear from the start.

Geffg

1,346 posts

134 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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I agree too. See an admin fee in the small print and it just pi**es me off thinking about sneaky ways they’re trying to get more money from you. Get you interested in the car go through finance and it’s affordable etc then when it’s totalled up sneakily add in the admin fee.
I don’t think I’d get away with doing a job for someone, giving them the price then saying that’s plus admin fee! I know it’s psychological and it’s the total payable etc that counts but imo it’s sneaky. I’m paying their wages and overheads via the cost of the car not as an extra. If I was buying a car and happy with the price then they tried to add an admin fee then I’d walk unless it was removed.

ZX10R NIN

30,515 posts

154 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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It's simple negotiate the Admin fee off the price or in some cases I've reused to pay it & they wave it when they see money walking out of the door.

It wouldn't stop me buying a car though.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

137 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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ZX10R NIN said:
It's simple negotiate the Admin fee off the price or in some cases I've reused to pay it & they wave it when they see money walking out of the door.

It wouldn't stop me buying a car though.
Exactly, no point missing out for no good reason.

crankedup

Original Poster:

25,764 posts

272 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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ZX10R NIN said:
It's simple negotiate the Admin fee off the price or in some cases I've reused to pay it & they wave it when they see money walking out of the door.

It wouldn't stop me buying a car though.
Depends upon the car being sold, if it were a rare difficult to find car maybe I couldn’t care two hoots about an admin fee. But, as in my case, it’s a common everyday chariot, then I will move onto
the next car lot to find the self same vehicle model with zero admin fee attached. As said by a previous poster ‘it’s a matter of principle’.

Sheepshanks

40,846 posts

148 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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Charge the dealer for your costs in dealing with the admin of changing cars.