National Glazier won't come repair my lock
National Glazier won't come repair my lock
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TheDrownedApe

Original Poster:

1,791 posts

85 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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So i've always read this section and hoped i would never need to post - but

2 years into 10 year guarantee on "windows and doors" from a major company censored. Now my back door (main entrance) won't lock. We've tried everything but alas no luck. So i tried to call the company on Sat and i was met with the same answer phone message of "We are closed - call back Mon-fri etcetc". I managed to fashion a temporary measure to stop anyone pulling the handle down but of course my insurance won't agree to this as being secure.

I tried today to be told "due to covid-19 we are closed". I've gone back to them asking if i can call out a locksmith, pay then ask them for reimbursement but not had an answer yet.

I've read the T&Cs and im covered and all it says is repairs will be made during mon-fri etcetc and not on weekends.

So am i within my rights to get a 3rd party to fix AND THEN ask for them to reimburse me - and what are the chances of this and where do i stand legally?

Edited by TheDrownedApe on Monday 8th June 17:42


Mod edit to remove N&S clue.

Edited by Scrump on Monday 8th June 17:43

dibblecorse

7,599 posts

221 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Just get your property secured and have the row later, for the sake of what, a couple of hundred quid, wouldn't you rather just have your house safe ?

Who knows what they will say ? What we can say though is if you are robbed through those doors and it comes to light, don't expect your insurer to pay out.

If you had broken a window and was in this position what would you do ? Live with a hole or get someone in ?

Jediworrier

434 posts

217 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Do you think it's the whole mechanism? If it's just the barrel they're pretty cheap and simple to swap.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,007 posts

264 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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dibblecorse said:
Just get your property secured and have the row later, for the sake of what, a couple of hundred quid, wouldn't you rather just have your house safe ?
I was just going to say the same. We were in the same boat & just got the local geezer to pop out. All sorted by tea time.

TheDrownedApe

Original Poster:

1,791 posts

85 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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I've looked at the barrel but it's a new Yale sideways one and it works when I take it out.

First the posters who seem to think I would happily leave it unsecure then let's assume I've covered that and just discuss the reimbursement issues, ok.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,007 posts

264 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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TheDrownedApe said:
just discuss the reimbursement issues, ok.
hehe Ok. Get it mended then see how it goes?

liner33

10,861 posts

231 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Does it lock in when opened ? Probably an adjustment issue sure there will be a how to on YouTube. Not uncommon on doors as the weather warms up

matjk

1,112 posts

169 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Is it the kind where you have to pull the handle up to engage all the locks around the door ?

Mandat

4,627 posts

267 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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TheDrownedApe said:
I've looked at the barrel but it's a new Yale sideways one and it works when I take it out.

First the posters who seem to think I would happily leave it unsecure then let's assume I've covered that and just discuss the reimbursement issues, ok.
Is the lock even covered by the 10 year warranty?

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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really easy to change loads of guides out there. Easiest thing is buy new lock bill company.

JimbobVFR

2,822 posts

173 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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This, 1 screw and a wiggle with the key is all it takes to change a euro cylinder. The hardest part is measuring the old one and that's not rocket science.

The Spruce Goose said:
really easy to change loads of guides out there. Easiest thing is buy new lock bill company.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,007 posts

264 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
is buy new lock bill company.
I thought you were suggesting to buy a company (although I wasn't sure what a lock bill was hehe)

hyphen

26,262 posts

119 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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TheDrownedApe said:
So i've always read this section and hoped i would never need to post - but

2 years into 10 year guarantee on "windows and doors" from a major company censored. Now my back door (main entrance) won't lock. We've tried everything but alas no luck. So i tried to call the company on Sat and i was met with the same answer phone message of "We are closed - call back Mon-fri etcetc". I managed to fashion a temporary measure to stop anyone pulling the handle down but of course my insurance won't agree to this as being secure.

I tried today to be told "due to covid-19 we are closed". I've gone back to them asking if i can call out a locksmith, pay then ask them for reimbursement but not had an answer yet.

I've read the T&Cs and im covered and all it says is repairs will be made during mon-fri etcetc and not on weekends.

So am i within my rights to get a 3rd party to fix AND THEN ask for them to reimburse me - and what are the chances of this and where do i stand legally?

Edited by TheDrownedApe on Monday 8th June 17:42


Mod edit to remove N&S clue.

Edited by Scrump on Monday 8th June 17:43
A) Issue them a 'Letter Before Action' giving them a final reasonable timeframe to come and do it. State in there that you already contacted them and the dates/times.

Also say that its a security risk and if robbed you will hold them liable for negligence.

If they don't fix then fix yourself and bill them. If don't pay after reminders, then do small claims online.

B) Find out the CEO's email. If a national company then should be easy to find- there are websites that list them. Email him.

Also tweet/facebook the company and the CEO.

For an external door, 2m is easy to maintain so Covid is rubbish. Chances are that they have furloughed staff and using the ones they have on new jobs!



Edited by hyphen on Monday 8th June 20:07

Andeh1

7,598 posts

235 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Did you you pay on credit card? That will give you some more added options!

elanfan

5,527 posts

256 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Assume this is multipoint locking system. On the front face of the strip the length of the doors is there a 3 digit number? If so it’s likely to be an ERA mechanism, give ERA a ring and they’ll send you a new one. Easy DIY job!

Oceanrower

1,359 posts

141 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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You say it locks when the door is open? Then it's not the lock. Changing the barrel won't help. It's an adjustment issue. In the frame there is a slot the bolt(s) go into. They need adjusting. Should take a matter of minutes however bad at DIY you are.

V8 Stang

4,507 posts

212 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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hyphen said:
A) Issue them a 'Letter Before Action' giving them a final reasonable timeframe to come and do it. State in there that you already contacted them and the dates/times.

Also say that its a security risk and if robbed you will hold them liable for negligence.

If they don't fix then fix yourself and bill them. If don't pay after reminders, then do small claims online.

B) Find out the CEO's email. If a national company then should be easy to find- there are websites that list them. Email him.

Also tweet/facebook the company and the CEO.

For an external door, 2m is easy to maintain so Covid is rubbish. Chances are that they have furloughed staff and using the ones they have on new jobs!



Edited by hyphen on Monday 8th June 20:07
Im sorry, but Small claims over a sodding lock... roflroflrofl



matjk

1,112 posts

169 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Usual PH thread !
I want compensation how do I get it?
Lots of help offers
I still want compensation
More help Offered
Total silence!
Par for the course really

hyphen

26,262 posts

119 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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V8 Stang said:
Im sorry, but Small claims over a sodding lock... roflroflrofl
How much are multi point locks, fitted by a locksmith, inc vat?

A lot of people aren't diy minded, and im assuming op isn't.

Edited by hyphen on Monday 8th June 21:36

A1VDY

3,575 posts

156 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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JimbobVFR said:
This, 1 screw and a wiggle with the key is all it takes to change a euro cylinder. The hardest part is measuring the old one and that's not rocket science.

The Spruce Goose said:
really easy to change loads of guides out there. Easiest thing is buy new lock bill company.