Warm brake smell, but wheels spin freely?!
Warm brake smell, but wheels spin freely?!
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gman88667733

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1,196 posts

97 months

Tuesday 9th June 2020
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Car is a 2004 Fiat Panda.
Discs on the front, drums on the back.

Noticed a warm brake smell from the front passenger side wheel. Sometimes driver side too, but less often. Can smell it inside the car when driving around town sometimes too.

The wheels never get hot, but they get warm, not warm enough to suggest major binding.

I've jacked up all 4 corners and each wheel spins freely, the fronts do 2-3 rotations before slowing down. The rears did loads before stopping. N/S rear had a bit of a noise as if the brake shoes were touching the drum as it span, just as much as if new pads were touching a brake disc slightly, but it didn't stop it spinning very freely.

I changed the pads last month and I'm sure one side/both had uneven pad wear (can't remember fully, I have a new set of discs and pads on the way though to fit as the pads I did fit were cheap and nasty)

I have had the car for 6 months. I have a record of the rear drums being stripped and cleaned in 2017.

I'm trying to work out what could be the cause of this warm brake smell and warm wheel (sometimes warmer than others, vague, I know.)

Any suggestions?

Edited by gman88667733 on Tuesday 9th June 15:33

finlo

4,453 posts

233 months

Tuesday 9th June 2020
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The cheapo pads you've fitted?

magpie215

5,042 posts

219 months

Tuesday 9th June 2020
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A sticky slider or piston would be my guess

GreenV8S

31,027 posts

314 months

Tuesday 9th June 2020
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See if you can get the brakes reasonably hot and then check whether the wheels still turn freely.

gman88667733

Original Poster:

1,196 posts

97 months

Wednesday 10th June 2020
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Think I've found the issue. When I fitted the pads, I noticed the discs were very worn and due replacing, but I put the new pads on anyway and mean to do the discs at a later date (mistake on my behalf I'll admit).

Took the pads out last night to check the wear and they have a big ridge worn at the bottom of them where they've formed to the old disc. So the pads have been getting very hot as they're wearing more in one area than the rest, which is causing the smell.

The caliper isn't binding at all, slider pins are nice and free, pistons are easy to retract.

New discs and pads were on their way anyway (good quality) so i'll fit them at the weekend when they turn up and hopefully solve the problem!

kambites

71,587 posts

251 months

Wednesday 10th June 2020
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Always a risk when changing the model of pad without also swapping discs because the exact size and shape of the friction surface varies even for "compatible" pads.

GreenV8S

31,027 posts

314 months

Wednesday 10th June 2020
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If the discs are significantly grooved then the braking would be very poor until the pad had worn to accommodate the shape of the disc, and if you then replace the disc it'll be poor again until the pad has worn flat again. Ideally if money is no object you're replace pads and discs at the same time so that you're bedding the new pads into flat discs.

gman88667733

Original Poster:

1,196 posts

97 months

Wednesday 10th June 2020
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That's the plan for the weekend. Purchased some quality discs and pads to start fresh.