Micro transactions. For or against?
Micro transactions. For or against?
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Ruskie

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4,336 posts

220 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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These aren’t new, but they are so ingrained in games now that they are hard to ignore. I was looking for a new game and read the reviews for Madden 20 and N2K20 and both are based around that model to get anywhere. I’m well aware of FIFA as well. The stand out figure is 3.4% per pack of getting anything worthwhile.

I’m not against them, however when it starts impacting the gameplay and the ability to be successful I think it is a step too far. I always thought Fortnight had the balance right.

Cyder

7,175 posts

240 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Completely against. Just let me buy the bd game and get on with playing it.

anonymous-user

74 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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When i played games as a kid you bought a game that is what you paid. updates included.

I have no problems as an Adult with it, but kids no, it ends up as a form of gambling and hooks them in. There should be an RRP and you should bever be able to charge 5% more for in game stuff on top.

Jasandjules

71,684 posts

249 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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I prefer to just have to pay for a game and be done with it.

What really annoys me is when you can get "better" starting weapons etc in a game if you pay the extra...

Radec

5,283 posts

67 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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I can just about tolerate season passes.
If you can pay to get ahead in a game quicker than you normally would then that's a stty unfair money grabbing model.
Everyone should start the same and grind for the weapons/powers etc, but then the grind shouldn't take like 100 hours either.

Paying for new skins etc I'm fine with as no advantage is gained

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

7,034 posts

75 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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It's stopped my buying a lot of games that I would have done normally... Until the game of year version comes out with all the dlc bks included.

I'll certainly never by another code masters game after the Dirt 2 rip off.

benny.c

3,626 posts

227 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Totally against it. “Dad, can I have £3 for this skin, weapon, loot box, etc etc”. Really annoys me. At least with Skylanders we got a plastic model to look at wink

vonuber

17,868 posts

185 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Against.

The game is fundamentaly altered (usually to its detriment) to take these into account, and they play on the same emotions as loot boxes (which are even worse).

Both should be banned.

A Winner Is You

25,731 posts

247 months

Friday 12th June 2020
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If the console market is bad, then the mobile one is a million times worse. I know of someone who has spent at least £40,000 on a WWE game (which just to hammer it home, is the cost of a brand new Mustang on jpegs of Hulk Hogan). It's completely unregulated gambling which urgently needs reigning in.

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

7,034 posts

75 months

Friday 12th June 2020
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A Winner Is You said:
If the console market is bad, then the mobile one is a million times worse. I know of someone who has spent at least £40,000 on a WWE game (which just to hammer it home, is the cost of a brand new Mustang on jpegs of Hulk Hogan). It's completely unregulated gambling which urgently needs reigning in.
To add even more context, that's the cost of 20,000 jpegs of Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Puggit

49,330 posts

268 months

Friday 12th June 2020
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Rainbow 6 Siege has it about right. It's pretty easy to grind to earn credit to get kit. You can spend your credit on gun skins and character skins, or new characters.

You also win random awards by playing more - skins again.

You can spend money on skins you only get with money - but they give you no advantage, or you can spend money on characters.

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

217 months

Friday 12th June 2020
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The thing is you can just buy the game and play it.
The gambling money aspect is only to compete against other people spending money.
YOU choose to do that. All you are saying is that you dont have willpower and you want to be better than anyone else.
Sometimes people seem more bothered about comparing themselves to others than actually playing a game for fun.
Competing in ANY sport costs money. Deal with it.
No one needs DLC. It really is just a case of FOMO. And remember FOMO is a negative quality in you.

anonymous-user

74 months

Friday 12th June 2020
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A Winner Is You said:
It's completely unregulated gambling which urgently needs reigning in.
When they grow out of the games i wonder what they will end up playing?

Zetec-S

6,563 posts

113 months

Sunday 14th June 2020
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A Winner Is You said:
If the console market is bad, then the mobile one is a million times worse. I know of someone who has spent at least £40,000 on a WWE game (which just to hammer it home, is the cost of a brand new Mustang on jpegs of Hulk Hogan). It's completely unregulated gambling which urgently needs reigning in.
yes

Don't have an issue with paying for additional content, but it shouldn't be hidden behind gambling.

The problem is the people who spend this sort of money are driving the industry. I don't play many "Free to play" multiplayer mobile games, mainly because they require huge amounts of patience, or huge amounts of cash. But when there are players who pump in £000's every week then you can't blame the developers for milking them...

vonuber

17,868 posts

185 months

Sunday 14th June 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
When they grow out of the games i wonder what they will end up playing?
What a curious statement. You still think games are just for children?

anonymous-user

74 months

Sunday 14th June 2020
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vonuber said:
What a curious statement. You still think games are just for children?
i think you jumped to the wrong conclusion. The games are being geared up to induce similar feelings to gambling, the kids will end up moving onto gambling games.

vonuber

17,868 posts

185 months

Sunday 14th June 2020
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The Spruce Goose said:
i think you jumped to the wrong conclusion. The games are being geared up to induce similar feelings to gambling, the kids will end up moving onto gambling games.
Oh i see, apologies.

Yes, there is that- but I don't think it is just children targeted. I think it targets everyone, and it is an easy thing to fall into.
They know what they are doing and they target the 'whales' especially.

Hiving off parts of the game to sell as day 1 DLC is one thing, microtransactions and loot boxes is another - especially in games you already have paid for.

hotchy

4,765 posts

146 months

Sunday 14th June 2020
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Free games then ofcourse not. I got the battle pass to warzone but the game was free. I dont play multiplayer anyway. To continue getting content for games, new maps, new events etc then it needs micro transactions to allow the game to continue to develop, no money in it and it will be dropped and the game will "die"



Now these packs I am completely against. Thats gambling. Paying for skins etc is fine as you know what your getting.

Edited by hotchy on Sunday 14th June 14:34

Ruskie

Original Poster:

4,336 posts

220 months

Sunday 14th June 2020
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DLC is different. Horizon Zero Dawn was the last DLC I downloaded and it was well worth it. The old COD map packs were good as well. Kept things fresh.

DanL

6,564 posts

285 months

Sunday 14th June 2020
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Micro transactions for skins, etc. I’m fine with. I understand that it can be problematic for children, but no more so than not wearing the right brand of trainers, etc.

Loot boxes can bugger off though. I may (or more accurately may not!) pay for something if I know what I’m getting, but I’m not paying for a chance to get something I might want. It’s bad if it’s cosmetics, and awful if it actually impacts on how easy it is to win.

I’m also happier with micro transactions in free to play games. Games I’ve bought (particularly if they’re full price) that then want me to fork out more can get in the sea.