Business Broadband, Leased line?
Discussion
Hi all, we are an online company so are heavily reliant on our broadband. Recently we have been having problems with our BT connection which are intermittent and it has made me realise how vulnerable we are with this. We are currently on BT infinity which is a fibre option connection but thats only as good as the old aluminium cabling used on our industrial estate.
We have looked at replacing it for a BT leased line option but you have to sign in to 5 years at a cost of approx £5k/annum. This seems a bit crazy given the recent developments in 4G/5G. Are there any other options out there? It needs to be able to support about 20 computers running at any one time.
Thanks
We have looked at replacing it for a BT leased line option but you have to sign in to 5 years at a cost of approx £5k/annum. This seems a bit crazy given the recent developments in 4G/5G. Are there any other options out there? It needs to be able to support about 20 computers running at any one time.
Thanks
emperorburger said:
Cheapest option would be to keep your BT line and install a router with integrated 4g for failover. You just pop a sim card in and configure it.
Tried that as the BT router has this built in but it just crashes all the time, I think because we are asking too much of it.20 users requiring the internet to work faultlessly but not willing to pay £20 per user per month for stable, reliable internet?
I've done a few fibre installs and contracts don't need to be 5 years. Get a 2 year one from someone else.
At least stop using the crap BT hub/router and get some good hardware. Get one that takes a SIM that'll fail over.
I've done a few fibre installs and contracts don't need to be 5 years. Get a 2 year one from someone else.
At least stop using the crap BT hub/router and get some good hardware. Get one that takes a SIM that'll fail over.
Is there any other infrastructure on the estate? Virgin fibre for instance?
A decent 4G switchover on failure of the line wouldn't be 100% seamless, but it really shouldn't affect users for long. I have the BT business hub with 4G dongle here. There are only a few of us using it, but the switchover is pretty quick (certainly less than 2 minutes)
A decent 4G switchover on failure of the line wouldn't be 100% seamless, but it really shouldn't affect users for long. I have the BT business hub with 4G dongle here. There are only a few of us using it, but the switchover is pretty quick (certainly less than 2 minutes)
Mr Pointy said:
Look at Draytek:
https://www.draytek.co.uk/information/solutions/3g...
https://www.draytek.co.uk/information/our-technolo...
https://www.draytek.co.uk/products/business/vigor-...
Used to work for them. Failover worked pretty well with their kit.https://www.draytek.co.uk/information/solutions/3g...
https://www.draytek.co.uk/information/our-technolo...
https://www.draytek.co.uk/products/business/vigor-...
Used to have no end of problems with aluminium lines in 2006/7. We had 8 lines + broadband and had to shout over crackling on wet days!
Virgin was the answer, purely because they had separate local infrastructure.
Now have a fibre leased line, but not cheap as you say.
Failover won’t help if all local lines are BT aluminium!
Virgin was the answer, purely because they had separate local infrastructure.
Now have a fibre leased line, but not cheap as you say.
Failover won’t help if all local lines are BT aluminium!
TotalControl said:
Mr Pointy said:
Used to work for them. Failover worked pretty well with their kit.Would you happen to know why when our WAN fails, the ADSL backup dials up meaning fail over takes about 60 seconds ? Ideally the ADSL backup should be always online and available for immediate failover.
Dogbash said:
Hi all, we are an online company so are heavily reliant on our broadband. Recently we have been having problems with our BT connection which are intermittent and it has made me realise how vulnerable we are with this. We are currently on BT infinity which is a fibre option connection but thats only as good as the old aluminium cabling used on our industrial estate.
We have looked at replacing it for a BT leased line option but you have to sign in to 5 years at a cost of approx £5k/annum. This seems a bit crazy given the recent developments in 4G/5G. Are there any other options out there? It needs to be able to support about 20 computers running at any one time.
Thanks
Dont know if you are still looking at this? My business sells and manages leased lines from all the UK carriers, because the best service/availability/price is location dependent. If you want a quote feel free to pm me your postcode and I can get something sent over. To avoid any install fees nearly all carriers want a 3 year minimum term, only BT would try it on and come up with 5! We smash BT out of the park all day every day, their Bt Local Business ‘partners’ are just bt resellers.We have looked at replacing it for a BT leased line option but you have to sign in to 5 years at a cost of approx £5k/annum. This seems a bit crazy given the recent developments in 4G/5G. Are there any other options out there? It needs to be able to support about 20 computers running at any one time.
Thanks
On the hardware vigors are very good at maintaining a connection but not very good at doing much else at the same time and can fall over quite regularly.
If you have multiple users you should have some flavour of bandwidth management in place so you can all use the Internet without issues.
Automatic failover to FTTC is something we also supply as part of our solutions, using cisco technology rather than vigors. The failover is seemless using the same ip range, which is essential if you have anything onsite that needs to be on a static ip.
Dogbash said:
Hi all, we are an online company so are heavily reliant on our broadband. Recently we have been having problems with our BT connection which are intermittent and it has made me realise how vulnerable we are with this. We are currently on BT infinity which is a fibre option connection but thats only as good as the old aluminium cabling used on our industrial estate.
We have looked at replacing it for a BT leased line option but you have to sign in to 5 years at a cost of approx £5k/annum. This seems a bit crazy given the recent developments in 4G/5G. Are there any other options out there? It needs to be able to support about 20 computers running at any one time.
Thanks
Look away from BT. On a current quote BT were 20% more than any other, they may be willing to do a deal against other quotes. This is for an edge of village industrial estate, with a possible LL connection to another business nearby. FYI we have been offered multiple suppliers at £3k p.a. with zero install subject to survey for 1gbps on a 3 year contract. £5k / 5yr sounds like the usual BT B.S.. Try Zen, TalkTak, A.N.Other reseller.We have looked at replacing it for a BT leased line option but you have to sign in to 5 years at a cost of approx £5k/annum. This seems a bit crazy given the recent developments in 4G/5G. Are there any other options out there? It needs to be able to support about 20 computers running at any one time.
Thanks
Could get down to around 400p.m. for 300gbps.
Check if Openreach will extend FTTP shortly, was advised by some that it might be better to take a 1year contract for LL and leave options open. In view of our location that is unlikely but more likely in industrial zones at the edge of built up areas.
Dogbash said:
emperorburger said:
Cheapest option would be to keep your BT line and install a router with integrated 4g for failover. You just pop a sim card in and configure it.
Tried that as the BT router has this built in but it just crashes all the time, I think because we are asking too much of it.e.g. what is your current line rate and load
Signal strength and speed of backup device
What do the logs say etc etc etc
but as other have said if you want to leased find another provider
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