Does a lot of rock music now sound dated??

[anonymous-user]

I hear songs like Highway To Hell or Kashmir on the radio now and I find it very dated, I loved rock music in my teens and twenties (late 70s/ early 80s) but some of it makes me cringe now, on the other hand I hear a Donald Byrd song or perhaps a Donny Hathaway song and it's timeless.

[irocfan]

nope - I'm still loving the rock I listened to as a child/teen/20's/etc - I am acquiring a taste for new metal/rock as well (so 3 days grace, breaking benjamin, rammstein, gothminister and on and on)

[Fastchas]

If anything, it's getting a resurgence thanks to films like Marvel etc using them.

[crofty1984]

For me it takes me back to being in my teens/20's. I don't know if you'd call it "dated" anymore than a particular style is popular/typical of any given era.
I'd not say I find rock "dated" as in "no longer good/the world has moved on".

[highway]

Old house music sounds dated. The 90’s stuff has not aged well at all.

[Pothole]

Raygun said:

I hear songs like Highway To Hell or Kashmir on the radio now and I find it very dated, I loved rock music in my teens and twenties (late 70s/ early 80s) but some of it makes me cringe now, on the other hand I hear a Donald Byrd song or perhaps a Donny Hathaway song and it's timeless.

I don't know what you mean by dated. If you mean songs from the 70s sound like they're from the 70s...why would that make you cringe?

Taking Donny Hathaway; A Song For You sounds like it was recorded in the 70s...because, shock horror, it was!

[anonymous-user]

Rock music is about youth, take this film of Knebworth 79 crowd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV7i7eaQtmU

[Pothole]

Raygun said:

Rock music is about youth, take this film of Knebworth 79 crowd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV7i7eaQtmU

I could have gone, had I been a bit more rebellious. A schoolfriend had a ticket he was willing to sell me, but I was gated (confined to the school grounds) for some minor transgression and I thought my Dad would have supported the school...when I asked him about it during the holidays he said I should just have gone!

[LasseV]

No.

[Hub]

To me, Highway to Hell, yes - it is plodding pub band stuff, with a whiff of cheese (or perhaps it is just tainted by a million average pub bands).

Led Zep - production wise sound has changed a bit but I think they still stand up better.

(I wasn't alive in the 70s!)

[pitboard]

Look at it this way. Led Zeppelin 1 was 50 years ago. Go back another 50 years from there and you're in the era of the Charleston.

[dandarez]

Hub said:

To me, Highway to Hell, yes - it is plodding pub band stuff, with a whiff of cheese (or perhaps it is just tainted by a million average pub bands).

Led Zep - production wise sound has changed a bit but I think they still stand up better.

(I wasn't alive in the 70s!)

I was! Much to the annoyance of one of the biggest LZ fans on PH's I first saw LZ in '69 at Bath festival.

But nothing in my mind will ever beat the August 1970 'Isle of Wight' Festival, bands from all around the world, 5 days, the first two 'free' and the weekend cost me and my mates (some of us paid!) 3 quid each (weekend meaning Fri, Sat, Sun).
And to top it all the sun shone, it was hot in more ways than one.
So good, Parliament produced an 'act' to ban gatherings this large estimated at just under 700,000 attendees!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3CxVSOY-Uc

As to the thread heading?
Nah, sounds just as good to me, especially against some of today's music. Regardless, I am just so glad I was around back then to experience it all. Superb times to have been young in the UK, and for all music from that period, rock whatever.

Edited by dandarez on Monday 15th June 21:04

[Dynamic Space Wizard]

highway said:

Old house music sounds dated. The 90’s stuff has not aged well at all.

It was crap at the time, that's why.

[anonymous-user]

dandarez said:

I was! Much to the annoyance of one of the biggest LZ fans on PH's I first saw LZ in '69 at Bath festival.

But nothing in my mind will ever beat the August 1970 'Isle of Wight' Festival, bands from all around the world, 5 days, the first two 'free' and the weekend cost me and my mates (some of us paid!) 3 quid each (weekend meaning Fri, Sat, Sun).
And to top it all the sun shone, it was hot in more ways than one.
So good, Parliament produced an 'act' to ban gatherings this large estimated at just under 700,000 attendees!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3CxVSOY-Uc

As to the thread heading?
Nah, sounds just as good to me, especially against some of today's music. Regardless, I am just so glad I was around back then to experience it all. Superb times to have been young in the UK, and for all music from that period, rock whatever.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 15th June 21:04

To see Led Zep in 1969 must of been quite a show to see, my mate got to see them at Earls Court in the mid 70s and said they were great. I got to see Page And Plant about 20 years ago and I'm afraid the majority of the audience looked ancient, a far cry from that clip of Knebworth I posted a couple of post back, it kind of loses the appeal with a load of fat bellied beer drinkers in there, Led Zep will always be long hair, skinny, Levi jacket, smoking a joint.

[So]

You can pick out some of the greats, for example "When the Levee Breaks" or "Gimme Shelter" and they still stand up. There wasn't half some dross churned out though.

With regard to late 90s house music. It stuck around long after its time, because there was little to replace it. Again, some of it is still tolerable but much has been played to tedium. No doubt future generations will "discover" it and we'll hear it all again in due course.

[boxedin]

highway said:

Old house music sounds dated. The 90’s stuff has not aged well at all.

The 80s was 'house music' IMHO. You're right though, House was in a poor state by the early 90s.

My House Is Your House, is an example of the 1990s starting badly, in 1990:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEWgF-dDXyk

[CubanPete]

Raygun said:

dandarez said:

I was! Much to the annoyance of one of the biggest LZ fans on PH's I first saw LZ in '69 at Bath festival.

But nothing in my mind will ever beat the August 1970 'Isle of Wight' Festival, bands from all around the world, 5 days, the first two 'free' and the weekend cost me and my mates (some of us paid!) 3 quid each (weekend meaning Fri, Sat, Sun).
And to top it all the sun shone, it was hot in more ways than one.
So good, Parliament produced an 'act' to ban gatherings this large estimated at just under 700,000 attendees!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3CxVSOY-Uc

As to the thread heading?
Nah, sounds just as good to me, especially against some of today's music. Regardless, I am just so glad I was around back then to experience it all. Superb times to have been young in the UK, and for all music from that period, rock whatever.

Edited by dandarez on Monday 15th June 21:04

To see Led Zep in 1969 must of been quite a show to see, my mate got to see them at Earls Court in the mid 70s and said they were great. I got to see Page And Plant about 20 years ago and I'm afraid the majority of the audience looked ancient, a far cry from that clip of Knebworth I posted a couple of post back, it kind of loses the appeal with a load of fat bellied beer drinkers in there, Led Zep will always be long hair, skinny, Levi jacket, smoking a joint.

My uncles mate lived just a couple of miles from me when I was a student. He was recently divorced, and I used get invites for a curry and a beer every few weeks.

He was (genuinely) best mates with Bob Plant...

He had been through primary and secondary school with him. He had spent years touring with Led Zep. As far as the accounts were concerned he was a roadie, but he wasn't expected to do any work other than go to the parties.

In his living room was 'several feet' of Led Zep albums. Not the ones from Woolies though. The test runs of ten they didn't like the artwork on, or the song order, or a version for a different country that never got released. A significant proportion were signed 'Ken, best mates forever, love, Bob' or something similar.

They weren't shelf pieces either, they were played, a couple of beers and they were scattered around the room!

Jimmy Page was my mates next door neighbour, in Rockfield, near the recording studios in Monmouth.

I never met either of them though!

[gazza285]

boxedin said:

highway said:

Old house music sounds dated. The 90’s stuff has not aged well at all.

The 80s was 'house music' IMHO. You're right though, House was in a poor state by the early 90s.

My House Is Your House, is an example of the 1990s starting badly, in 1990:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEWgF-dDXyk

Cheesy synths programmed on pirated Cubase by a cheesy youths on an Atari ST. Chuck in a few samples from your Akia sampler, and you are good to go raving.

[boxedin]

gazza285 said:

Cheesy synths programmed on pirated Cubase by a cheesy youths on an Atari ST. Chuck in a few samples from your Akia sampler, and you are good to go raving.

<cheesy grin>
lol

1990s Amiga doing it 'live':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHD1pc-UmeY

Anyway this rock music: Status Quo, yes dated.
ACDC's Black in Black and For Those About to Rock, no.

[anonymous-user]

CubanPete said:

Raygun said:

dandarez said:

I was! Much to the annoyance of one of the biggest LZ fans on PH's I first saw LZ in '69 at Bath festival.

But nothing in my mind will ever beat the August 1970 'Isle of Wight' Festival, bands from all around the world, 5 days, the first two 'free' and the weekend cost me and my mates (some of us paid!) 3 quid each (weekend meaning Fri, Sat, Sun).
And to top it all the sun shone, it was hot in more ways than one.
So good, Parliament produced an 'act' to ban gatherings this large estimated at just under 700,000 attendees!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3CxVSOY-Uc

As to the thread heading?
Nah, sounds just as good to me, especially against some of today's music. Regardless, I am just so glad I was around back then to experience it all. Superb times to have been young in the UK, and for all music from that period, rock whatever.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 15th June 21:04

To see Led Zep in 1969 must of been quite a show to see, my mate got to see them at Earls Court in the mid 70s and said they were great. I got to see Page And Plant about 20 years ago and I'm afraid the majority of the audience looked ancient, a far cry from that clip of Knebworth I posted a couple of post back, it kind of loses the appeal with a load of fat bellied beer drinkers in there, Led Zep will always be long hair, skinny, Levi jacket, smoking a joint.

My uncles mate lived just a couple of miles from me when I was a student. He was recently divorced, and I used get invites for a curry and a beer every few weeks.

He was (genuinely) best mates with Bob Plant...

He had been through primary and secondary school with him. He had spent years touring with Led Zep. As far as the accounts were concerned he was a roadie, but he wasn't expected to do any work other than go to the parties.

In his living room was 'several feet' of Led Zep albums. Not the ones from Woolies though. The test runs of ten they didn't like the artwork on, or the song order, or a version for a different country that never got released. A significant proportion were signed 'Ken, best mates forever, love, Bob' or something similar.

They weren't shelf pieces either, they were played, a couple of beers and they were scattered around the room!

Jimmy Page was my mates next door neighbour, in Rockfield, near the recording studios in Monmouth.

I never met either of them though!

He must know the chap that owns Focusrite now called Phil Duderridge, I read he was one of Led Zep's roadies before he started the Soundcraft company.
Rockfield has now got the Neve 8068 console in there that started out at Motown's Hitsville Studios West in LA, then got sold to Madonna and now Rockfield have got it, fantastic console.