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They are digging up my street at the moment and when I asked why I was told they are laying cable to enable FTTP broadband. If they are digging it up to do anyone any idea on when it might be available? Our current FTTC broadband is decidedly ordinary as we are a long way from the cabinet so it'd be a marvellous thing to have while working from home...
They used to blow a fibre from the "aggregation node" which wasn't always, but could be by the cabinet. As it's fibre from point to point (equipment inside house to aggregation node) it's unlikely they'd be laying the actual stuff unused in pipes I'd have thought.
If they're doing it like that, as opposed to hooking everyone up, they'd like do it along existing conduits. Perhaps what they're doing now is laying new conduits to enable that?
I could be wrong, and it could all have moved on since I did it.
If they're doing it like that, as opposed to hooking everyone up, they'd like do it along existing conduits. Perhaps what they're doing now is laying new conduits to enable that?
I could be wrong, and it could all have moved on since I did it.
Providers of FTTP should be contacted direct for service, they own and run it.
Some 3rd party installers operate on behalf of a providers (like City Fibre-Vodafone)
All of them have to then open it up the competition, so allow a percentage for that use.
Work for Gigaclear.... we're not the fastest when it comes to building and releasing to market, but the product is decent. Rural only, and have a range of methods to get t hard to reach properties..
Some 3rd party installers operate on behalf of a providers (like City Fibre-Vodafone)
All of them have to then open it up the competition, so allow a percentage for that use.
Work for Gigaclear.... we're not the fastest when it comes to building and releasing to market, but the product is decent. Rural only, and have a range of methods to get t hard to reach properties..
Quickmoose said:
Providers of FTTP should be contacted direct for service, they own and run it.
Some 3rd party installers operate on behalf of a providers (like City Fibre-Vodafone)
All of them have to then open it up the competition, so allow a percentage for that use.
Work for Gigaclear.... we're not the fastest when it comes to building and releasing to market, but the product is decent. Rural only, and have a range of methods to get t hard to reach properties..
I do wonder why the fibre cables are state owned like rail lines or the roads and then anyone can use the cabling to provide services.Some 3rd party installers operate on behalf of a providers (like City Fibre-Vodafone)
All of them have to then open it up the competition, so allow a percentage for that use.
Work for Gigaclear.... we're not the fastest when it comes to building and releasing to market, but the product is decent. Rural only, and have a range of methods to get t hard to reach properties..
It's daft to have 3 different FTTP cables going down one street.
jamoor said:
Quickmoose said:
Providers of FTTP should be contacted direct for service, they own and run it.
Some 3rd party installers operate on behalf of a providers (like City Fibre-Vodafone)
All of them have to then open it up the competition, so allow a percentage for that use.
Work for Gigaclear.... we're not the fastest when it comes to building and releasing to market, but the product is decent. Rural only, and have a range of methods to get t hard to reach properties..
I do wonder why the fibre cables are state owned like rail lines or the roads and then anyone can use the cabling to provide services.Some 3rd party installers operate on behalf of a providers (like City Fibre-Vodafone)
All of them have to then open it up the competition, so allow a percentage for that use.
Work for Gigaclear.... we're not the fastest when it comes to building and releasing to market, but the product is decent. Rural only, and have a range of methods to get t hard to reach properties..
It's daft to have 3 different FTTP cables going down one street.
Openreach/BT obviously the biggest, but not state owned.... then some little new start up goes and over builds?...who knows.
Here like others, we're starting to use BT poles and ducts to cover the bigger distances, but essentially the country will replace copper with fibre, and every provider will have access to every network... eventually...
But it's not like copper, they don't tap off of the cables running past your house.
Each fibre needs to go somewhere, so if you don't have it already, doesn't matter if your neighbour has, and there's already fibres in your street, they still need to run (blow) a fibre to your house.
The only real benefit to having had the street dug up is that there'll be conduits laid that hopefully your provider can use to save digging it up again.
Each fibre needs to go somewhere, so if you don't have it already, doesn't matter if your neighbour has, and there's already fibres in your street, they still need to run (blow) a fibre to your house.
The only real benefit to having had the street dug up is that there'll be conduits laid that hopefully your provider can use to save digging it up again.
phil4 said:
But it's not like copper, they don't tap off of the cables running past your house.
Each fibre needs to go somewhere, so if you don't have it already, doesn't matter if your neighbour has, and there's already fibres in your street, they still need to run (blow) a fibre to your house.
The only real benefit to having had the street dug up is that there'll be conduits laid that hopefully your provider can use to save digging it up again.
True on all counts.Each fibre needs to go somewhere, so if you don't have it already, doesn't matter if your neighbour has, and there's already fibres in your street, they still need to run (blow) a fibre to your house.
The only real benefit to having had the street dug up is that there'll be conduits laid that hopefully your provider can use to save digging it up again.
The chances that a neighbour has it but you don't will be remarkably rare, unless you're separated by 100's of metres, or the neighbour is ina n area that got built before yours...
We used to direct armoured fibre to every property we passed.
Now we install tiny conduits and blow the fibre upon a successful sale.
CityFIbre have installed in our street about 3 weeks ago, advised roughly 4 months till it will be offered, Vodafone are the supplier, I was with EE and contract was up going from £25 to £40 a month, so I've joined Vodafone at £22 a month for now and they will let me jump up to Gigafast when its available.
Alucidnation said:
Whilst FTTP is a brilliant infrastructure, it can still suffer with contention.
We have a dedicated line installed from the exchange and it really is a breath of fresh air.
Can it?We have a dedicated line installed from the exchange and it really is a breath of fresh air.
I think thats an ISP problem not a fault of the technology. If the entire network is fibre optic then there can't be a bottleneck surely?
jamoor said:
Alucidnation said:
Whilst FTTP is a brilliant infrastructure, it can still suffer with contention.
We have a dedicated line installed from the exchange and it really is a breath of fresh air.
Can it?We have a dedicated line installed from the exchange and it really is a breath of fresh air.
I think thats an ISP problem not a fault of the technology. If the entire network is fibre optic then there can't be a bottleneck surely?
Alucidnation said:
jamoor said:
Alucidnation said:
Whilst FTTP is a brilliant infrastructure, it can still suffer with contention.
We have a dedicated line installed from the exchange and it really is a breath of fresh air.
Can it?We have a dedicated line installed from the exchange and it really is a breath of fresh air.
I think thats an ISP problem not a fault of the technology. If the entire network is fibre optic then there can't be a bottleneck surely?
Found this, it's supposed to be updated every month. Handy to find out which supplier is in your area
https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/local/broadband-ma...
https://labs.thinkbroadband.com/local/broadband-ma...
Quickmoose said:
Providers of FTTP should be contacted direct for service, they own and run it.
Some 3rd party installers operate on behalf of a providers (like City Fibre-Vodafone)
All of them have to then open it up the competition, so allow a percentage for that use.
Is that true of all CityFibre networks and is there a delay before they have to allow other ISPs to access it? I don't fancy Vodafone as an ISP and it's the only option in MK.Some 3rd party installers operate on behalf of a providers (like City Fibre-Vodafone)
All of them have to then open it up the competition, so allow a percentage for that use.
AJB88 said:
CityFIbre have installed in our street about 3 weeks ago, advised roughly 4 months till it will be offered, Vodafone are the supplier, I was with EE and contract was up going from £25 to £40 a month, so I've joined Vodafone at £22 a month for now and they will let me jump up to Gigafast when its available.
CityFibre started installing here in November. Went live on Vodafone a week or so back. They blew the fibres then disappeared for ages. This resulted in a coil of fibre in the comms box on the outside of every house. Then they came back and terminated the fibre in the box and disappeared for ages. Then they cam back and installed mini cabinets every couple of hundred metres and disappeared. Then after a touch over 6 months it became available to order.jamoor said:
Alucidnation said:
jamoor said:
Alucidnation said:
Whilst FTTP is a brilliant infrastructure, it can still suffer with contention.
We have a dedicated line installed from the exchange and it really is a breath of fresh air.
Can it?We have a dedicated line installed from the exchange and it really is a breath of fresh air.
I think thats an ISP problem not a fault of the technology. If the entire network is fibre optic then there can't be a bottleneck surely?
However simply put, all your data is also broadcast to every home on that fibre but your router is set up to only forward your packets to your home.
stemll said:
Quickmoose said:
Providers of FTTP should be contacted direct for service, they own and run it.
Some 3rd party installers operate on behalf of a providers (like City Fibre-Vodafone)
All of them have to then open it up the competition, so allow a percentage for that use.
Is that true of all CityFibre networks and is there a delay before they have to allow other ISPs to access it? I don't fancy Vodafone as an ISP and it's the only option in MK.Some 3rd party installers operate on behalf of a providers (like City Fibre-Vodafone)
All of them have to then open it up the competition, so allow a percentage for that use.
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