997.1 GT3 Advice
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I was looking at 991 Turbos and a 992S. Whilst great cars, they left me a little cold (coming from a 997.2 C4S). Then along came a 997.1 GT3. Given I need to fit rear belts for child seat this seems like an exciting alternative as I only use the car at weekends. Also feel it should keep it's money better than the aforesaid.
The car has a FSH but the last 2 are from independents rather than a main dealer. Also requested a Durametric for over revs and 111 check if the ranges are good,
It's a black on black 2006 car with 30,000 miles. What else should I be looking out for?
The car has a FSH but the last 2 are from independents rather than a main dealer. Also requested a Durametric for over revs and 111 check if the ranges are good,
It's a black on black 2006 car with 30,000 miles. What else should I be looking out for?
Good choice.
Drive the car and feel/listen for suspension knocks/play. Ideally you need to have a reasonable drive for this as the suspension can feel a little "wooden" until up to operating temp after a few miles. Check the clutch pedal action is smooth and progressive. The clutch will feel heavy initially (after your 997.2) but this will only really be apparent until your body/brain recalibrates. Check the cooling packs (rad and air-con condensers) for weepage/excessive stone damage as they are very exposed if there is no grille mesh fitted. As already said inspect the usual wear items (discs/pads/tyres) and try to ascertain recent expenditure from invoices - this is invaluable in helping you to understand what's been addressed, and what issues could be latent.
It's difficult to know where to start on a 14 year old car, so if in any doubt, get an inspection done.
I was going to put rear belts in mine too (this was, at least, part of the rationale I used to convince my other half that a GT3 was a good idea!), but it starts to get reasonably involved if you want to replace the interior rear quarter panels with the slotted versions, and put rear seats in as well, so I held off in favour of keeping the car 100% standard. I believe the 997.1 GT3 is unique in having this potential to be the ultimate "touring" GT3.
The car feels like a quick, engaging, and very capable classic car to me, with enough usability and creature comforts for any drive/occasion. In comparison my 997.2 felt a little easy/polished for a second or third car which is kept purely for the purpose of driving as a hobby.
Good luck, and let us know how you get on..
Drive the car and feel/listen for suspension knocks/play. Ideally you need to have a reasonable drive for this as the suspension can feel a little "wooden" until up to operating temp after a few miles. Check the clutch pedal action is smooth and progressive. The clutch will feel heavy initially (after your 997.2) but this will only really be apparent until your body/brain recalibrates. Check the cooling packs (rad and air-con condensers) for weepage/excessive stone damage as they are very exposed if there is no grille mesh fitted. As already said inspect the usual wear items (discs/pads/tyres) and try to ascertain recent expenditure from invoices - this is invaluable in helping you to understand what's been addressed, and what issues could be latent.
It's difficult to know where to start on a 14 year old car, so if in any doubt, get an inspection done.
I was going to put rear belts in mine too (this was, at least, part of the rationale I used to convince my other half that a GT3 was a good idea!), but it starts to get reasonably involved if you want to replace the interior rear quarter panels with the slotted versions, and put rear seats in as well, so I held off in favour of keeping the car 100% standard. I believe the 997.1 GT3 is unique in having this potential to be the ultimate "touring" GT3.
The car feels like a quick, engaging, and very capable classic car to me, with enough usability and creature comforts for any drive/occasion. In comparison my 997.2 felt a little easy/polished for a second or third car which is kept purely for the purpose of driving as a hobby.
Good luck, and let us know how you get on..
All good advice, thanks.
The garage has not come back with the ignition ranges yet and I would have a 111 check anyway. The same check on my car revealed weeping rear dampers, coolant pipe connection issues, worn inner tyre tread and damage to condensers (all slowly rectified). All things to look out for on a GT3 too I guess, plus potential wear from track use. The number of stone chips for a 48,000 km car would suggest it's seen a track now and again.
The garage has not come back with the ignition ranges yet and I would have a 111 check anyway. The same check on my car revealed weeping rear dampers, coolant pipe connection issues, worn inner tyre tread and damage to condensers (all slowly rectified). All things to look out for on a GT3 too I guess, plus potential wear from track use. The number of stone chips for a 48,000 km car would suggest it's seen a track now and again.
the 997.1 is as said getting on, Condensers are an easy fix, fairly cheaply if done DIY as it's easy to do. check rads while your in there, Fit grille's. Check coolant hoses front to back as you know they weep and then let go....
Check suspension bushes, tyre wear, dampers, your on top of over revs,
All the best with your search,
The plan would be only to fit seat belts as my son has a Porsche Junior seat which works with these. I have removed one of the rear seats completely in the 997 I have now so to maximise the space.
Safety first absolutely. I had a VW Splitscreen camper a couple of years ago, and although it was utterly charming, I was constantly concerned about how unsafe it was. Made me a better driver though
Safety first absolutely. I had a VW Splitscreen camper a couple of years ago, and although it was utterly charming, I was constantly concerned about how unsafe it was. Made me a better driver though
Sisu9 said:
All good advice, thanks.
The garage has not come back with the ignition ranges yet and I would have a 111 check anyway. The same check on my car revealed weeping rear dampers, coolant pipe connection issues, worn inner tyre tread and damage to condensers (all slowly rectified). All things to look out for on a GT3 too I guess, plus potential wear from track use. The number of stone chips for a 48,000 km car would suggest it's seen a track now and again.
I wouldn’t recommend Porsche for the pp check, they have an agenda...Find an impartial independent would be my advice. There a few good ones out there..The garage has not come back with the ignition ranges yet and I would have a 111 check anyway. The same check on my car revealed weeping rear dampers, coolant pipe connection issues, worn inner tyre tread and damage to condensers (all slowly rectified). All things to look out for on a GT3 too I guess, plus potential wear from track use. The number of stone chips for a 48,000 km car would suggest it's seen a track now and again.
Yes quite common on the 997.1 as the Range 1 trigger point is around 9000 to 9200rpm. So unless engine has been buzzed it will be clear. Unlike a 996 where if you hit limiter it records
http://www.911virgin.com/porsche/rev-range-informa...
http://www.911virgin.com/porsche/rev-range-informa...
Edited by Cunno on Monday 13th July 18:40
Sisu9 said:
It has 48,000kms. I was just surprised as I expected to see something more than that. Looked at 997 Turbo and it did show high revs but the technician said there was nothing to be concerned about at this had happened some time / kms ago,
Does 'buzzed' mean erased?
Buzzed means over-revved, most often a mechanical over-rev caused by selecting 2nd rather than 4th (or similar cockup) and mechanically forcing the revs past where they are supposed to be!Does 'buzzed' mean erased?
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